ARM and ARM64 Game SDK

[sylveon]

In my app, I want to use the Game SDK to provide various features to my users (my primary intent as of now is to use to it to launch the client with an invite to my server upon user action rather than opening a browser with an invite).

Microsoft is starting to launch ARM devices, and the Surface Pro X is already in the hands of some of my users, so I have started to see user demand for ARM versions of my application.

Due to some external and architectural constraints, I need a native version of my app for ARM64 and ARM, the x86 emulator Microsoft provides on ARM devices does not work with my app hence the aforementioned user demand.

Since all major C++ compilers support targeting ARM and ARM64, would it be possible to also distribute an ARM and ARM64 Game SDK build in the official .zip download?

As far as I understand the RPC architecture used, such a Game SDK would still be able to interact with a Discord client that uses the x86 emulator.

[msciotti]

Thanks for the request; much appreciated. I'll chat with the team when we get back from break and ask about feasibility. I have nothing explicitly on the roadmap right now for ARM/ARM64, and I imagine as far as desktop goes, it's a limited use case. It also depends on what sort of version of our app we distribute on those kinds of architectures, which I'm not sure of off the top of my head.

I think in general there's been valid asks for a way to get GameSDK functionality across more devices and architectures, which I think is a great idea, especially if we could do it in a way that wouldn't require us to hook up new build pipelines for new types of native SDKs.

[Dids]

The last update was in 2020 and it didn't have ARM64 support. I think it's safe to assume the GameSDK has been effectively abandonned. I've already ripped it out of my codebase because of issues which haven't been fixed.

Actually, it turns out that there is in fact ARM support and the SDK is still bring updated.
It seems like it's the documentation/links that haven't been updated, however the "latest version" points to the correct one.

[giacomopc]

Where I can find this? Sorry i don't know what you mean by latest version. Can you provide a link? Thank you!

[advaith1]

the last version was in 2020 https://discord.pyrrha.dev/#/versions

[devsnek]

version 3.2.1 is available, which includes aarch64 artifacts

[sylveon]

While the zip at https://dl-game-sdk.discordapp.net/latest/discord_game_sdk.zip does have ARM64 builds, they are only for macOS, not Windows, which still makes this unsuitable for my use case (I'm making a Windows app and want to make a native ARM64 build) and also doesn't fill the initial feature request.

[sylveon]

Note that only ARM64 is used by Microsoft going forward (last time 32-bits ARM was used is for the Surface RT line which is dead now) but I like to build my app against 32-bits ARM, even if only for validation. Distributing 32-bits ARM GameSDK is unneeded but appreciated.

[sylveon]

It also depends on what sort of version of our app we distribute on those kinds of architectures, which I'm not sure of off the top of my head.

Most probably is normal x86 version that is being emulated by the software x86 emulator on ARM64 Windows devices. This way, the Discord client mostly works as expected, with the exception of the overlay on ARM64 games (if those even exist).

[smorey2]

I would like to add to this. My application is running on the oculus quest. Which is also an arm64 arch.

[Myriachan]

ARM64 is now a lot more important with Macs now going ARM64. There are already a few games that run on native ARM64 Mac. You might as well also support Windows ARM64 while you're at it, since it's probably not hard for the Discord SDK.

If the DLL were open-source, I'd do it myself.

[Almighty-Alpaca]

Can only agree with the people who commented before me. I know that the original issue is for ARM on Windows but now that Apple Silicon is in everyone's hands we really need an ARM Build for OSX. The number of users I can only tell "I can't help you because Discord doesn't support Apple Silicon at the moment" is increasing every day.

Is it possible to revisit this proposal in the light of M1?

[fxcvd]

Please create an assembly for arm64. I am using macbook air m1 and cannot compile the application
due to lack of .dylib file for arm64

sorry for my english, i use google translate

[chasemw1]

Support for this ought to be underway especially since apple has announced new computers running their M1 SoC - with ARM. Every day this is put aside only brings about more dissatisfied users.

[GeekBrony]

Any updates on this? Having integration with Discord is a must for my game. And I need it to be able to support the next generation of Macs.

[JaceMayer]

Hoping for an update on this? Theres hardly been any word from Discord about support for ARM macs at all, client or SDK. Eventually Rosetta 2 will be removed from Mac OS and then there will be game which can not create a native binary without removing discord (assuming they haven't released a native SDK yet)

[giacomopc]

Is there an update on this? It seems to be no updates on the Discord server about this either. This is very important for our games because if you compile the game for Apple Silicon, which increases performance, the libraries need to be compiled for ARM as well. Every other plugin that we use has already been updated for ARM, except the Discord SDK.

[jkcoxson]

Writing games for M1 will not be possible until we get a native ARM build. The software I'm writing does not have the headroom to run through Rosetta, so this is stopping me from integrating into Discord at all. The population of Macs is shifting from Intel to ARM, it does not make sense to not supply these ARM dylibs.

[mooogah]

What's the update for this?

[ghost]

@msciotti You forgot to answer this question.

[giacomopc]

Hi, as @sylveon replied on another post above, you can find an ARM64 of the Game SDK for macOS here: https://dl-game-sdk.discordapp.net/latest/discord_game_sdk.zip . Posting it here for the people who want to support Apple Silicon on their apps or games.

[sylveon]

Still missing Windows ARM64 :(

[renhiyama]

@msciotti can we expect any SDK for mobile apps/games too? Samsung doesn't own even the 50% of android users... Makes no sense for a normal android user to buy a costly phone from samsung just to flex their game status from android... Android games are a lot popular, not having playing status SDK makes it impossible to boast about :(

[sylveon]

Please open a new issue/discussion about this. This is unrelated to the current discussion.

[RaresAil]

@sylveon did you implemented it on apple m cpus? when i want to do that i get 2 errors:

• “discord_game_sdk.dylib” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for malicious software.
• Multiple plugins with the same name 'discord_game_sdk' (found at 'Assets/Plugins/aarch64/discord_game_sdk.bundle' and 'Assets/Plugins/aarch64/discord_game_sdk.dylib'). That means one or more plugins are set to be compatible with Editor. Only one plugin at the time can be used by Editor.

[sylveon]

I'm not a Discord employee. It seems you are having issues with Unreal Engine.

[RaresAil]

Is Unity, i also know that you are not an employee, but i am asking if you managed to run the SDK on Apple Silicone

[sylveon]

I do not have Apple Silicon hardware. I am interested in Windows ARM64 support, and filed this request before Apple Silicon even existed.