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Gigabyte Z490i Aorus Ultra + 10900k
11.3 Beta (20E5229a)
Samsung 970 Evo NVME:- 18, 17, 18.
- 29, 30, 30.
- 97, 85, 86
Reacted by Vitaly CheptsovCrucial BX500 120GB SATA 2.5-inch
GA-H61M-S2PV + i5-2500K
11.3.1 (20E241)- 31 30 30
- 39 44 40
- 46 42 41
(sudo trimforce enable)
From the motherboard logo to macOS system, pressing Enter immediately at OpenCore menu.
WD Blue SN550 1TB NVMe
Z370 AORUS Gaming 3 + i5-9600K
11.3.1 (20E241)- 20 20 20
- 34 33 32
- 36 37 37
From Apple logo to macOS system.
Reacted by Jan Jastrow and SujayCrucial MX500 500GB SATA 2.5-inch
MacBookPro9,2 + i5-3210M
11.3.1 (20E241)- 39 37 39
- 41 42 45
- 45 46 46
(sudo trimforce enable)
From Apple logo to macOS system.
Samsung SM951 256GB NVME (MZVPV256HDGL-00000)
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H, +i7-4790K, iMac 15,1
10.15.7 (19H1030)- 22.90, 22.82, 23.29
- 27.46, 26.77, 26.43
- 27.10, 26.62, 26.33
From gigabyte splash screen to macOS Login screen (used stopwatch on iPhone to time each run)
Pressing Enter immediately at OC GUI.Samsung 830 256GB SATA SSD
Asus P9X79WS + Xeon E5-2667v2 + 64GB ECC + MacPro6,1 SMBIOS
macOS 11.3.1 + OpenCore 0.6.9Time in seconds from pressing enter in OC-Picker to login screen:
sudo trimforce disable:
- 23, 21, 22
sudo trimforce enable (SetApfsTrimTimeout={999, -1, 4294967295}):
- 32, 31, 32
- 42, 42, 41
- 45, 44, 44
I expected 'trimforce disable' and 'trimforce enable' with 'SetApfsTrimTimeout:999' to be approximately equal. Why isn't that the case? 🤔
HideAuxiliary Enabled, ShowPicker, and Timeout Disabled. (I always use it this way.)
ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB NVMe
ASUS TUF Z390-Plus Gaming + Intel 9900K
11.4 Beta (20F5055c) iMac 19,1- (43, 45, 46)
- (46, 47, 48)
- (53, 54, 55)
It is always slow in any case. There is only one OS in this Build.
Samsung 870 EVO 1TB SATA
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro / i7-9700K
11.3.1 / iMac 19,1Times taken between Apple Logo and Login Screen
- 15, 15, 15
- 18, 19, 19
- 18, 18, 18
Reacted by Mohammad AbbasCorsair MP600 1TB NVMe
Asus ROG Strix X570-I / Ryzen 9 3950X
11.4 Beta / MacPro7,1- 23 24 24
- 28 27 27
- 27 27 28
I don't know if you'll ever consider the following, but apparently many models of Phison E12 (like Sabrent Rocket NVMe 3.0 TLC 64 layers NAND) have a broken trim support and are going to failure of the disk.
In less than 1 year, I wrote just 5.2 TB of data for my 512GB model and the drive estimated life was 94%.
According to Sabrent TBW warranty, the 500GB 3.0 TLC model should have 800TBW of life which is a joke.Please avoid buying NVMes with Phison E12 controller.
I opted for a WD Black SN750 and it works flawlessly both with and without TRIM ^^Reacted by eugene2878 and younixReacted by Jason NaderCrucial P2 CT500P2SSD8
Lenovo L390 Yoga with i5-8265U / Big Sur 11.4 / MacBookPro 15,2- 22 22,3 21,5
- 30,9 31 31,3
- 32,1 31,9 32,20
About 10 seconds more with trim enabled
DELL XPS 7590 FHD | i7 9750-H | HP SSD EX920 512GB
macOS BigSur 11.4 | MacBookPro16,1 | OpenCore 0.6.9- 24 25
- 27 27
- 27 27
Testing done from POST logo to macOS login screen
Intel 660p
SSD: Model: INTEL SSDPEKNW010T8 type: NVMe size: 1TB motherboard: LattePanda Alpha 800s CPU: m3-8100Y macOS: macOS 11.4 (20F71)
SetApfsTrimTimeout time (s) 999 44.84 999 49.88 999 47.36 -1 53.05 -1 52.27 4294967295 56.26 4294967295 56.47 Samsung 860 EVO
SSD: Model: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB type: SATA size: 500GB motherboard: GA–Z77–HD4 CPU: i7–3770K macOS: macOS 11.4 (20F71)
SetApfsTrimTimeout time (s) 999 35.62 999 35.38 -1 39.75 -1 39.81 4294967295 39.61 4294967295 39.63 Samsung 970 EVO Plus
SSD: Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB type: NVMe size: 1TB motherboard: GA–X299–UD4 CPU: i9 7900X macOS: macOS 10.15.7 (19H1217)
SetApfsTrimTimeout time (s) 999 41.30 999 42.39 -1 51.43 -1 51.62 4294967295 1:46.87 4294967295 1:45.62 Samsung NVME 970 Pro 512GB
Big Sur 11.4
Z490 Vision D + 5700 XT
OC 0.7.1 iMac20,2
NVMEFixup.kext enabledVALUE | POST>OC | OC>OSX | TOTAL BOOT
999 | 11 | 25 | 36
-1 | 11 | 36 | 47
4294967295 | 11 | 90 | 100Confirms your findings about Samsung
85 remaining items
Yes, I also had PCI gen 3x4. However, after months of usage, I did notice that there are some times (maybe 1-2 times a week) where the storage would cause macOS to freeze up for 10-15 seconds. I don't know if it has to do with this specific NVMe or if it is an issue with every NVMe. I only used SATA before and never had that issue.
Yes, I also had PCI gen 3x4. However, after months of usage, I did notice that there are some times (maybe 1-2 times a week) where the storage would cause macOS to freeze up for 10-15 seconds. I don't know if it has to do with this specific NVMe or if it is an issue with every NVMe. I only used SATA before and never had that issue.
Thank you for your patience 😊 do you think this issues cause by SN850X? I've already 970 Evo plus and boot time 1 minute 30 sec. Some apps Open take long time specific Ms office. Also glitch the screen and freeze Evey week even multiple times a day. I've previously installed 850 sata SSD and this was incredibly fast both boot and opening apps.
My advice: stick with the 850 SATA. I had a 860 SATA before and had 0 issues for years. You won't notice any speed increase in day to day use, especially since it's PCIe 3x4.
Samsung SSD 980 500GB NVME (Non-Pro)
motherboard: GA - Z490 Aorus Elite
CPU: i3-10100F
macOS: Ventura 13.4.1
Opencore 0.9.3
HideAuxiliary Enabled, Showpicker and Timeout to 0.From Apple logo to Login Screen:
1 : 15 15 15
2 : 42 40 40
3: 40 40 40I can only assume the Trim is either working slowly or failing, I am unsure if I should leave it on -1 or 0 for day to day use until I can buy a more compatible SSD, any tips are welcome.
How is Kingston KC3000? It has Phison E18. I can get it pretty cheap but want to be sure that it will not be effected. Thank you.
Maybe not that great? https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/general-nvme-drive-problems-fatal.316546/post-2324146
Is there a way to manually trigger the trim or some tool to do that? Because I rather trigger manually when I'm idle than waiting an infinite amount of time at boot.
Reacted by Guillaume BOUERAT and DaleHi All... am using the Dortania help guide to install the Ventura on my Dell G3 3579 laptop... I have the NVMe WDC SN550 M.2 NVMe drive and I have followed the NVMefix and Set the TRIM support to 3 value but still am getting the bellow error even after very long hours...
Please help me out to fix this problem I have the attached EFI folder here...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-AVP18hBMWWi6Pr5z-3q_THtqh81N7xY/view?usp=sharingCurrent Config of my Laptop
Model : Dell G3 3579 Processor Intel Core i5-8300H @ 2.30Ghz
Memory : 16GB DDR4 2666Mhz ✅
SSD 1TB Samsung 860EVO ✅
NVMe M.2 Slot Western Digital Blue SN550 1TB ✅
iGPU Intel UHD Graphics 630 ✅
Sound Card Realtek ALC236 ✅
Ethernet Card Realtek RTL8111 ✅
@qin9125 > thank you wd sn550 works fine
Bro I'm also using SN550 but I don't know why I'm getting this and stuck in this line only
Couldn't alloc "AppleKeyStoreTest".
And for more information, how it happened?
Here's the story->
My elec went out after upgrading to ventura latest version successfully and was running the latest version on the latest updated opencore version and config both. After when elec came back, I tried to open my pc and then logged in opencore boot menu then logged in again for the user access.
Also last time, after updating to the latest version when I logged into my desktop. One popup showed up at the time and in that it is showing "Some updates cannot be installed".
After that again elec went out and then came backs, and then again I tried to open my pc and from that time it is continuously stuck on this couldn't alloc "AppleKeyStoreTest".
Please help me bro!
I'm also on discord and my username - youngmoguler.
Please tell yours, so that I can reach you there.Thanks in advance.
Hi, i have used samsung 970 EVO with no issues on big sur in the last years, now i want to upgrade to a newer version of osx.
Since all samsung nvme are affected by trim issues, am i forced to switch to another ssd? I already own a sandisk extreme pro, should i clone my data to this disk before upgrading?Hi, i have used samsung 970 EVO with no issues on big sur in the last years, now i want to upgrade to a newer version of osx. Since all samsung nvme are affected by trim issues, am i forced to switch to another ssd? I already own a sandisk extreme pro, should i clone my data to this disk before upgrading?
Best thing to do is switch to WD
Best thing to do is switch to WD
OK, but 1st post says:
Working fine with TRIM:
Western Digital Black SN750 (aka SanDisk Extreme PRO)and found some reviews like this
"The WD Black SN750 is equipped with the same controller and NAND parts as last year's WD Black and SanDisk Extreme Pro, and the only differences in chip markings appear to be date codes or lot numbers."So should i give it a try?
Best thing to do is switch to WD
OK, but 1st post says:
Working fine with TRIM: Western Digital Black SN750 (aka SanDisk Extreme PRO)
and found some reviews like this "The WD Black SN750 is equipped with the same controller and NAND parts as last year's WD Black and SanDisk Extreme Pro, and the only differences in chip markings appear to be date codes or lot numbers."
So should i give it a try?
I looked at techpowerup.com and they agree on the controller and memory with sn 750/770, there is a high chance that it will work
I looked at techpowerup.com and they agree on the controller and memory with sn 750/770, there is a high chance that it will work
edit:
after cloning my old 970 evo to my new sandisk extreme pro everything works fine.Hi i recently built my hackintosh i don't know how you do those test.. i checked and my APFSTrim is set to -1
ASUS TUF Z690 D5
2 Samsung NVME 990 (1 windows - 1 ventura)
RTX 4070
RX 580on my macos ventura with AmorphousDiskMark i got this result:
Except the slow boot i don't see any issue or trouble... but if you can suggest the correct test to do .. i would be happy to do...
Reacted by Hà HùngNVMe - Lexar SSD NM610PRO 1TB
Gigabyte B660 DS3H + Intel 12100F
macOS version used - Sequoia 15.2SetApfsTrimTimeout = 0
Boot times (in seconds): 33, 28, 33, 28, 31SetApfsTrimTimeout = -1
Boot times (in seconds): 71, 56, 38, 34, 55SetApfsTrimTimeout = 4294967295
Boot times (in seconds): 32, 32, 36, 41, 71The longer boot times are likely due to USB being extremely buggy on this board
EDIT: Turns out it wasn't the USB being buggy, but something to do with TRIM. Since "SetApfsTrimTimeout = 4294967295" has been set, my system has been rock solid
Samsung 990 PRO 1TB NVME
Dell Inspiron 3671
Intel B365
Sequoia 15.5
Intel Core i3-9100
NVMeFix.kext
sudo trimforce enable- 20, 20, 20
- 30, 30, 30
- 30, 30, 33
Does this seem like trim is working correctly?
Guide Anti-Hackintosh Buyers Guide (link)
After our discovery of a severe bug in the TRIM implementation of practically all Samsung SSDs we spent time investigating which SSDs are affected by all kinds of issues, and so far came with several names worth mentioning.
Working with TRIM broken (can be used with TRIM disabled, at slower boot times, or as a data storage):
Working fine with TRIM:
Working fine with TRIM (SATA):
Working fine with TRIM (Unbranded SSDs):
Incompatible with IONVMeFamily (die under heavy load):
There are several very good comparison charts containing various SSDs and their controllers: one, two. Since SSD compatibility usually is controller-based, picking up an SSD with a known to be compatible controller has a high compatibility chance as well.
In addition to that, I would like more people to run tests on their platforms to determine whether their SSD TRIM implementation is broken or not.
Preconditions:
The idea is to measure the boot time either between motherboard logo and macOS login screen or between Apple logo and macOS login screen. The former is strongly recommended due to possible GOP issues. All the measurements needs to be done with different
SetApfsTrimTimeoutvalues set in OpenCore. Each measurement must be made at least 2 or 3 three times to ensure no sporadic results. The values to test are as follows:0(means TRIM is disabled)-1(standard timeout, equals roughly 10 seconds, means TRIM is enabled and runs up 10 seconds during boot)4294967295(maximum timeout, TRIM is enabled and runs as long as needed)Please write include the following information in the report:
Note: If you use FileVault 2, you can use
sudo fdesetup authrestartcommand to skip UEFI login.AuthRestartmust of course be enabled. I would also advise to disable the OpenCore Picker (ShowPicker=NO).