x/website: request to remove googletagmanager.com/ from Go websites

[sofeepokhrel]

Hello,

The official golang.org / go.dev site contains google tracking site called
https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js?id=UA-11222381-7

I request to remove tracking contents or any content from any site that have tracking codes in it.

I also want to ask,

By looking google tracking codes in go.dev. I feel if golang programming langauge source code also contains other tracking codes.

I dont have hate to anybody. I love any company, i love golang. But i dont like being tracked, even in programming language site.
Thank you.

[illiliti]

They already track contributors and sell their data by forcing to register google account. Why would they remove tracking?

[rsc]

The Go web site uses Google Analytics to better understand how people use the site, where they spend time on it, and so on. It can also help us better understand latency and JS errors, as described in #40958. Among other reasons, that information helps us run the site effectively with a very small team. We will not be removing that. And of course the Go web site is not alone in using Google Analytics. Many sites on the web do the same. You appear to have a way to block Google Analytics already.

As for Go itself, there is no tracking per se but the go command does by default connect to a Google-run module proxy and checksum database, as is noted on the home page below the download button as well as at the top of https://go.dev/dl/. That page in turn links to https://proxy.golang.org/privacy, which explains exactly what information is and is not collected, and for how long. If you have any concerns about Go itself, I hope those details help. It is simple to configure Go not to use these services, but note that doing so gives up the reliability, security, and efficiency they provide.

I hope that answers any questions you have.

[sofeepokhrel]

As for Go itself, there is no tracking per se but the go command does by default connect to a Google-run module proxy and checksum database, as is noted on the home page below the download button as well as at the top of https://go.dev/dl/. That page in turn links to https://proxy.golang.org/privacy, which explains exactly what information is and is not collected, and for how long. If you have any concerns about Go itself, I hope those details help. It is simple to configure Go not to use these services, but note that doing so gives up the reliability, security, and efficiency they provide.

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@rsc please do something.
Report big issue about these google tracking (even in go command), and many others to golang core team, rather than closing issue and be silent about these topics.

[enkeyz]

Google tracking people. Mind blown.

[ianlancetaylor]

@sofeepokhrel @rsc is a member of the Go core team.

[sofeepokhrel]

I think Golang team can't do anything. Nor golang is complete *free *opensource.
It is said to be opensource, and its lie.

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Nothing can be done.
Just going with the flow and policies changes of google , shall also come here... ofcourse.
Sorry me fooling here. :(

Good luck go for nice future.

[tjpnz]

The developer community is highly represented when it comes to the use of ad and content blocking. How certain is the team that GA data is useful when it comes to making important decisions about the site?

[ianlancetaylor]

@sofeepokhrel "Lie" is a strong word. Please be aware of the Go community code of conduct: https://go.dev/conduct. In particular, please be charitable and respectful. Thanks.

When it comes to computer programs, "open source" is a well defined term. See https://opensource.org/osd. I believe that Go is open source according to that definition. I'm not sure why you are simply quoting the LICENSE and PATENTS file. Those are widely used license grants and I believe that they are generally considered to follow the open source definition.

@tjpnz We are certain. Thanks. If you want to block Google Analytics, you may. That will not cause you to lose access to anything on the site.