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Add point for cemetery=grave #2942

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ghost opened this issue Nov 10, 2017 · 11 comments
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Add point for cemetery=grave #2942

ghost opened this issue Nov 10, 2017 · 11 comments
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ghost commented Nov 10, 2017

Please add a point in the cemetery as "cemetery = grave" when zooming the cemetery above z19.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.83441/18.10357

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That would make it unreadable. Current rendering is very good, but z19 is still too low for such features:

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sTH

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ghost commented Nov 10, 2017

The current rendering does not show graves on Openstreetmap.

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Sure. My link shows how dense would they be on z19.

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ghost commented Nov 10, 2017

API showed circles instead of points.
See this cemetery under JOSM.

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One should make a code and test rendering to know for sure, but I believe just dots would be still too dense and not clear enough.

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ghost commented Nov 10, 2017

Do not closed this issue. Not done.
How is it possible for points 3 meters away from each other to be too dense?
A similar distance is often between buildings and no one denies it.

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kocio-pl commented Nov 10, 2017

Closing issue does not mean nothing can be done and I don't plan to lock conversation. It's just a tool for a team to know if this is likely to be done. If somebody else believes it is useful, he can reopen it. I don't.

I would not render just dots, rather brown tombs (like this). Dots are needed for amenities and offices, which usually have names and you can't expect where they are, so it will be useful. Cemetery is the area where mostly tombs are expected, so it's not a big information gain, and names would be seen only for some of them, so it would just show which parts of the cemetery contain them. With z20/21/22 it would make sense for me, but on z19 it's too early in my opinion.

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ghost commented Nov 10, 2017

I meant only the maximum zoom without name of the grave.

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above z19

Note that the openstreetmap.org is not allowing to zoom above z19 - z20 tiles are not available and z19 are maximum.

Even with z20 rendering added it would be invisible for a typical user.

I think that z19 would be too early for a typical cemetery to render all graves.

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For info re maximum zoom levels - the Humanitarian layer goes to z20, and that's the maximum zoom supported by mod_tile "out of the box". It's possible to change that (I've done it for a map style I use for the UK and Ireland), but it's a change that would need thinking about for various reasons. You could submit a pull request for cemetery=grave rendering to the Humanitarian layer at https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS or to mine at https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/openstreetmap-carto-AJT but there's little point in the UK and Ireland as this tagging is hardly used there: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sUG .

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ghost commented Nov 11, 2017

I would like to know that many people in the OSM community believe that every grave is historical.
So, no matter whether it is a grave that was created yesterday or a hundred years old.
They add, automatically, to the tag "cemetery=grave", tag "historic=tomb".
I gave you an example of a cemetery completely mapped, but, currently, we have tombs / sarcophagi just adding that tag, they do not fill the whole area.

We also have places with sarcophagi tagging "historic=tomb" but without "cementary=grave", as they are not in the cemetery but in the underground of the castle.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.05460/19.93560

The grave finder also considers the tag "historic=tomb":
http://osmtools.org/groby/#lat=50.05464&lon=19.93548&z=19

So perhaps it is worth to link the visualization of the grave with the tag "historic=tomb"?
I do not know. Think about it.

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