Change rendering private gardens

[matthijsmelissen]

The following issue has been moved over from trac:

A user in my area has recently been adding residential housing and gardens from high-resolution OOC mapping.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.7674&mlon=-1.26754&zoom=17&layers=M 

These are tagged

leisure=garden
access=private
garden:type=residential

e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/79633228

Could these be made a little less obvious at low zoom? By "low", I mean at around z14 or z15. To be perfectly honest I don't think private gardens should render at all at anything less than z18 or higher, and it may be wise to render residential gardens with a variation on the same sort of grey used for landuse=residential.

Rationale: the general public visiting the OSM website aren't going to be interested in residential gardens. The 80:20 rule applies for most zooms. For the detail-obsessed visitor and mappers like me, there's always z18.

[Rovastar]

Ummh yes this is more common in high/micro mapped areas.
But if we have to use garden:type=residential it is not going to happen.
Just using
leisure=garden
access=private
Wouldn't give us enough or would it?

[pnorman]

An area which is tagged like that, given the ticket is 4 years old: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.3161/-123.0439

I'm not convinced that these stand out too much. The rendering isn't great, but it also seems that there's some tagging questions raised in the original ticket.

[matkoniecz]

nearly opposite of #127

[matthijsmelissen]

As there is no clear solution or idea what is the best rendering, I will close this issue.

[RobJN]

We have instances of this in the West Midlands:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/88835865

It makes the map look very green and hides the grey residential colouring. I see they are tagging differently in Oxfordshire. One to discuss at the next Birmingham social :)

[matthijsmelissen]

Some of these front gardens are concrete/paved driveways. Do they really deserve leisure=garden?

[lest69]

No, there's definitely some mis-tagging there. According to that tagging, the entire property consists of only garden, and the house has been built on top of it. Apparently there's also a fence around all four sides with no entrance, so I guess the residents are all high-jumpers or pole-vaulters. ;)

[achadwick]

Regarding the Oxford example, they were once residential=garden, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/79633228/history, but we changed that when it became apparent that it was ugly and (almost certainly) wrong to use a leisure=* tag. We're using

  landuse=residential
  residential=garden

now. Seems fine to me.

I've also been going round applying some one feature = one object changes which has the effect of de-emphasizing those walls since they're no longer (incorrectly (there aren't any stacks of two walls)) double-struck.