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(!ie) in conditional comments around html tag #425
Also you should read Paul Irish's explanation on this topic. I should note that this was linked in the code itself.
This is kinda basic stuff. If you google things before posting issues you can save a lot of waiting time for a response.
i've previously read both posts, and mentioned the second one in my second comment. and i appreciate your concern for my time, but i've googled it and it's nothing critical either way, just something i'm curious about, so i asked.
however, neither articles explain the necessity of the !(ie)...ppk's post doesn't even mention that at all.
i get the same result, with a few less characters, by just using:
[if gte IE 9]
thx for bringing it up dustinhorton.
the IE conditionals are pretty ugly and from a "i want my markup to feel nice and clean" POV, they really suck. at the same time, they're super useful.
as for dreamweaver,
i think a small change to my original code (around the
that said it's been a long-ass time since i did testing on this so I kinda forget the details. ;)
(via @dustinhorton). AFAICT, we can't do this because it would assume no html tag for non-IE. now technically other browsers would create one but not one with the
(via @necolas) this way you wouldnt need to do an OR to combo
Just a minorly shorter variation.
the MSDN page on CCs is pretty weak, so I'm a little unclear what the best way about this is.
If someone wants to try a few of these out and report back the findings, i'd be happy to tweak our syntax if we can get away with something smaller / more clear. ♡
Just wrote a comment and deleted it on my phone when attempting to edit it...but briefly:
I don't believe the html will be ignored. I removed the !(IE), and in all the browsers I tested, the no-js class was still on the tag meaning its not being ignored by non-ie browsers.
As I understand ie conditional comments, this makes perfect sense...non-ie browsers don't care about the content within them (either in the condition or the code between the comments). Might not be entirely true.
OK I've done some quick tests.
@paulirish: You cannot use that shorted variation. It failed in IE 8 and
@dustinhorton: You're absolutely right about the
This is a standard CC, contents inserted only to IE because it is commented out for other browsers.
Adding the extra characters changes the boundaries of the HTML comments for non-IE browsers, while preserving the CC for IE. So the content is seen by all non-IE browsers and any IE browsers that meet the initial condition.
This is probably the shortest option for IE9+ and all non-IE browsers.
Although perhaps using
@dustinhorton I'm sorry for my initial judgment of your question. It seems
I won't have time to test right now, but once you all decide what will be
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:03 PM, dustin <