Add special interest/plant emoji: Poppy

[inferno986return]

I would like to request a poppy emoji specifically the Papaver rhoeas. These are a symbol used to symbolise war remembrance.

https://github.com/inferno986return/poppy-emoji-proposal
Crissov/unicode-proposals#113

Note: Unicode's response was that the design needs to be differentiated from the hibiscus.

[b-g]

Hi @inferno986return, many thanks for suggestion! Good one! But this might take a while ... what about giving it a try yourself? :) See our style guide on how to https://openmoji.org/styleguide/

[carlinmack]

Here's an attempt in our style, I've never added new openmoji though so I'm not sure what hexcode we'd give it etc

[b-g]

Nice!

Just I'm a bit unsure whether it would be better to put more emphasis on:
Poppy = Remembrance Day vs Poppy = nice red flower. Hmm ... other thoughts?

@inferno986return Any Feedback?

Poppy Remembrance Day

Other OpenMoji Flowers

[carlinmack]

I'm from the UK and it's exclusively a remembrance day symbol rather than a flower, I was mimicking the shape of the poppy in your picture rather than the real flower which is more wrinkly

[inferno986return]

This is an excellent start! It's unambiguously a remembrance poppy.

My concern though is that the two-petal design is protected by the British Legion, hence a more generalised design based off the flower itself would be the best option.

[carlinmack]

looking into it poppyscotland owns the trademark for the four leaf design, guess we need to wait for a British Legion or poppyscotland emoji font 🙄

The concern here is that as the licence of openmoji is CCBYSA4 it can be used for commercial purposes so theoretically someone could use our font to defraud the british legion.

I truly wish design was more free :(

[carlinmack]

One concession we could make is a white poppy, which is used for conscientious objectors and such to the war. I don't think anyone holds copyright for it and aligns with the open-* philosophy, @b-g thoughts?

[b-g]

Hmm ... I would not be too much worried about a hypothetical legal issue. OpenMoji has also other "trademarked" things e.g. everything in Brand. Normally a trademark is extremly specific in terms of the formal representation and the domain. Hence I don't see a conflict ... even the BBC is using a two-petal design.

I would simply go ahead with a red and two-petal and a very "recognizable" remembrance poppy design. But I would scale up the flower and put less emphasis on the entire plant. Basically more like in the BBC screenshot and less like the rest of the OpenMoji plants.

The concern here is that as the licence of openmoji is CCBYSA4 it can be used for commercial purposes so theoretically someone could use our font to defraud the british legion.

Yes ... but this applies to any other "tool" and is IMO not a strong case to not do it. I still belive people have a conscience! :)

[carlinmack]

Added in b2e8217

[b-g]

Hi @carlinmack, many thanks for it! Nice!

RE:

@b-g did you want stem/leaf in the emoji?

I really like the size of the poppy and as it is now. And yes, I personally would add a hint of green e.g. tiny stem/leaf to better bring across that it refers to a plant.

But also think @carlinmack and @inferno986return (= people really familiar with the UK war remembrance symbol) should have the final word.

[carlinmack]

@inferno986return thoughts?