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I am an old VWG user and I am seeing a long and painful migration process from VWG. Mainly because a product as recent as the Wisej, must have a lot of small issues to stabilize until the product becomes mature and stable to be used in real live applications (I remember that this evolutionary process have been long and painful with VWG, and when finally start being usable the company closes).
No seriousness by the Gizmox the way they close the door and left all users/developers orphan (paying users). The only serious way in a situation like this is to make all code available for the users. But ok, this is another story and I am crossing fingers that with Wisej will be different.
'The full source code is available as a free Code Warranty'. How does that work; can I get clarification what that means? Is it, if I pay for the 2017 release, and in 2019 the company gets sold, drops support, or decides to substantially up to price to $35000 per upgrade/update, I can then get the 2017 source code free?
In short, the "Free Source Code Privileges" section is a "light-weight" insurance against Ice Tea Group (around since 1998) going out of business or dropping the product. It gives you the right to receive the full source code under certain circumstances. It doesn't protect you against bad business decisions like selling a license for $35K.
It’s been some time since the last post and Wisej is evolving in big steps. I wanted to give you a brief update on licensing options.
We’re happy to announce that the Wisej Technology Partner program has just been released. It introduces…
Priority Support
Bulk License Prices
Reseller Discounts
Source Code Subscription
Self-Managed Single License Keys
In case you’re interested to learn more, please contact us at info@wisej.com.
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itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
Tiago (ITG) answered 2016-11-01 11:20:33 UTC
Hi Gunter,
We are muh better with Wisej than we were with VWG as
The full source code is available as a free Code Warranty, Named Escrow Account, or Full Source Code License.
You can find more about this on Products page
itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
Rui Oliveira answered 2016-11-01 12:08:56 UTC
I am an old VWG user and I am seeing a long and painful migration process from VWG. Mainly because a product as recent as the Wisej, must have a lot of small issues to stabilize until the product becomes mature and stable to be used in real live applications (I remember that this evolutionary process have been long and painful with VWG, and when finally start being usable the company closes).
No seriousness by the Gizmox the way they close the door and left all users/developers orphan (paying users). The only serious way in a situation like this is to make all code available for the users. But ok, this is another story and I am crossing fingers that with Wisej will be different.
Thanks & regards,
Rui
itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
Gunter answered 2016-11-01 12:42:17 UTC
Hi Tiago
sorry i didn't see that. That sounds very good. And with vwg, does wisej provide anything for migrating vwg applications to wisej?
itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
John answered 2016-11-01 17:58:32 UTC
'The full source code is available as a free Code Warranty'. How does that work; can I get clarification what that means? Is it, if I pay for the 2017 release, and in 2019 the company gets sold, drops support, or decides to substantially up to price to $35000 per upgrade/update, I can then get the 2017 source code free?
itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
Luca answered 2016-11-01 18:09:14 UTC
Hi John,
See the details here: http://wisej.com/license-information/ You can download the pdf license, which is the same EULA in the installer.
In short, the "Free Source Code Privileges" section is a "light-weight" insurance against Ice Tea Group (around since 1998) going out of business or dropping the product. It gives you the right to receive the full source code under certain circumstances. It doesn't protect you against bad business decisions like selling a license for $35K.
HTH
Best,
Luca
itg-assistant commentedon Jun 12, 2026
Thomas (ITG) answered 2018-06-10 08:03:35 UTC
It’s been some time since the last post and Wisej is evolving in big steps. I wanted to give you a brief update on licensing options.
We’re happy to announce that the Wisej Technology Partner program has just been released. It introduces…
Priority Support
Bulk License Prices
Reseller Discounts
Source Code Subscription
Self-Managed Single License Keys
In case you’re interested to learn more, please contact us at info@wisej.com.
Thanks
Thomas