Which services should we integrate with?

[icidasset]

💁 Suggestions are welcome!

Music storage

• Amazon S3
• Azure Blob Storage
• Azure File Storage
• Blockstack Gaia
• BTFS
• Dropbox
• Google Drive
• IPFS
• Local file system
• WebDAV

Maybe someday (if possible):

• Dat Protocol
• LBRY (not sure if possible)
• SeaFile
• Sia storage
• Soundcloud (not sure how this would work)
• Storj
• Torrents (streaming is difficult + CORS issues)
• Youtube (not sure how this would work)
• Wasabi

Cannot implement:

• One Drive
  Too much of a hassle, requires use of an iframe and doesn't allow CORS with the code flow (refresh-token flow). Using an iframe is currently impossible and would mean rewriting a large part of the app.

Authentication / Information storage

• Blockstack
• IndexedDB
• IPFS (v2)
• RemoteStorage
• Solid (postponed, not enough tooling yet)
• Textile (v2)

[happybeing]

I want to note here that if you support RemoteStorage using remoteStorage.js, it should become trivial to extend your support to SAFEnetwork (a decentralised secure autonomous Internet - see MaidSafe.net) using my fork of RS.js which is under development but working with the current SAFE Alpha2 network.

[jcmrva]

What about Azure blob storage?

[icidasset]

@jcmrva Thanks for the great suggestion! Will try to add that. Would you suggest https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/storage/files/ as well then?

[jcmrva]

I hadn't considered it, but... maybe.

What about setting up a poll for these + priority?

[icidasset]

@jcmrva Sure thing!

In order of importance, more important -> less important:

[icidasset]

@jcmrva Do you by any chance have any experience with the Azure APIs? I did most of the integration work, but I keep getting an authorization error. See #90 for more info (in case you're interested).

[jcmrva]

A little... I'll look into it when I get home next week if it's still open.

[icidasset]

@jcmrva Never mind, found the issue. Support for 'Azure Blob Storage' has been added 👍I'm going to add the 'Azure File Storage' integration later, because that one is a bit more difficult. The file storage API doesn't support recursive listing of "shares" so I will have to build my own strategy for this.

[sunjam]

Youshark uses WebTorrent and aplayer for music as mentioned here and here

Here is a hosted demo you can try out.

Archive.org public domain audio player support
Sia storage

[sunjam]

It would be fun to federate to other instances of Diffuse using ActivityPub.
You could also federate with Funkwhale (similar to Grooveshark) which is also working on federation on their Gitlab.

Activitypub is what Nextcloud uses to federate with other instances afaik. Peertube video platform as well. Checkout this video of Peertube federating with Mastodon social platform.

[icidasset]

@sunjam Thanks again! 🙏

I will look into WebTorrent when I have time, cool to see that is possible!
Added Sia to the list.

Could you explain your reason for suggesting ActivityPub?
Is there a specific feature you are looking for?

I was thinking to do something with multiple instances.
For example, one thing I had in mind was that you could crossfade to a different instance.
Would be cool for DJ-ing.

That said, I'm not entirely getting this "federate" thing yet.
I'll have to look more into ActivityPub first I assume.

[dma-b]

Any love for simple OneDrive?

[icidasset]

@ciperyon Thanks for the suggestion, added it to the todo list.

[sunjam]

Could you explain your reason for suggesting ActivityPub?
Is there a specific feature you are looking for?

ActivityPub is a common protocol used for communicating between different decentralized servers, known as federation. It is what allows users on Server A to find & communicate with users on Server B.

Example: Nextcloud uses ActivityPub to federate (connect) with other servers running Nextcloud, Owncloud, or Pydio. Diffuse could use ActivityPub to connect with other Diffuse instances.

ActivityPub is a very common protocol for decentralized apps, so you could develop it to share playlists and activity with not only other Diffuse instances, but also connect with a great number of other ActivityPub-supported services such as Mastodon (micro-blogging), PixelFed (photo hosting) and Hubzilla (social network). This series of federated services that all interconnect is known as the fediverse... here is an animation from Mastodon that illustrates how ActivityPub works.

Edit: dev chat is at irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#activitypub

[icidasset]

Update on One Drive:
Currently not able to implement as the "code flow" authentication procedure does not support CORS. They suggest using an iframe as an alternative, but I'm not going anywhere near an iframe.

[sunjam]

Oauth2 support would be nice. Then I could log into Diffuse directly from Nextcloud or even this Github account.

[icidasset]

@sunjam Thanks for the suggestion! Sorry for the late reply. I'm not sure how that would work, since you have to register oauth applications, right? I'd like the application to be completely independent of other services.