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CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting January 26, 2021 21:00 Amsterdam *** 20:00 UTC 16:00 NYC 13:00 San Francisco (Time is anchored to Amsterdam)

INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-cellar-09-cellar-01/

WEB CONFERENCE:

https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)

These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

Attendees

  • Spencer Dawkins

  1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

  2. Accept draft minutes from October 27 meeting (attached below)

  3. Logistics for Meeting. 3a) Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. *

    Please ask Spencer if you have questions.

    3b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"

    https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

    3c) Roll call

  4. WG status update

    • draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-19 was posted 2020-12-01, in AD Followup, but there's still an open discuss position
    • draft-ietf-cellar-codec-05 was posted 2020-10-19
    • draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-06 was posted 2020-10-19
    • draft-ietf-cellar-tags-05 was posted 2020-10-19
    • has a FLAC specification been posted to the datatracker yet?
    • We agreed at the December meeting that we would have a focused conversation about FFV1 v4 in our Feberuary meeting, and noted then that the April 2021 date is not realistic.

  5. 2021 virtual interim meeting dates

    • Please note that the proposed 2021 dates discussed at our previous meeting are now official, approved by our AD, and listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
    • Sometime around 2021-09-28, we’ll see if we want to meet at IETF 112 on November 6-12, 2021, in person in Madrid.

  6. remaining FFV1 issues from DISCUSS

  7. From the mailing list: "What is the canonical procedure to create an "infinite" audio stream, using Opus and FLAC codecs?"

     I have been attempting to locate a site which streams Opus continuously to test.

 I also am interested in the exact opusenc, et al. commands necessary to achieve creation of live audio streams.

 The use cases are implementation of user-defined Web radio station, the capability to play the "infinite" stream using HTMLAudioElement (WHATWG/HTML) over HTTP.

 ("infinite" is quoted here as there is no way to verify infinity; the gist is playback should not stop; is not seekable).

  8. Matroska issues *

  9. FLAC issues *

AOB?

NEXT MEETING February 23, 2021.

Notes from previous meeting for approval