REQUEST: Please rename the project #27

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Don't get me wrong. I love and support The Pirate Bay... but... would it be possible to rename this project to something other than "openbay"?

I've poured the last two years of my life into my startup https://www.openbay.com which now has grown to 15 full time employees to whom I'm responsible.

I agree it's a great name, which is why we chose it over two years ago for our business. It's how our auto mechanics and customers have identified us for years.

SEO and brand recognition is an important part of our business and, as you could imagine, my inbox was flooded this morning with mentions of "openbay" that were not related to the business we've been growing. Quite disheartening, it was a rough morning :'(

I know this is a long shot... but please give it some consideration.

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That's a bummer. :-|

@adambair With all respect your website needs some fixing. It's outrageous that I'm welcomed with:

Openbay isn't available yet in your country. We're growing every day, so keep checking back!

Give me about page, give me details of what you do etc. You're Your designer/engineer who decided to show that idiotic page instead of some real info dose not deserve it's beer.

Edit:
Regarding the rename... if project owners wold like, maybe a same like:

  • OpenPB aka OpenPirateBay (naming idea comes from OpenGL, OpenAL, OpenCV etc)

DrOptix commented Dec 21, 2014

That's a bummer. :-|

@adambair With all respect your website needs some fixing. It's outrageous that I'm welcomed with:

Openbay isn't available yet in your country. We're growing every day, so keep checking back!

Give me about page, give me details of what you do etc. You're Your designer/engineer who decided to show that idiotic page instead of some real info dose not deserve it's beer.

Edit:
Regarding the rename... if project owners wold like, maybe a same like:

  • OpenPB aka OpenPirateBay (naming idea comes from OpenGL, OpenAL, OpenCV etc)
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@adambair This website showing "Openbay isn't available yet in your country" is really a no-go.

As an alternative name, I propose:

  • OpenTPB (because TPB is a common abbreviation of "The Pirate Bay")
  • FreeBay (downside: contains "eBay" in the name)

vog commented Dec 21, 2014

@adambair This website showing "Openbay isn't available yet in your country" is really a no-go.

As an alternative name, I propose:

  • OpenTPB (because TPB is a common abbreviation of "The Pirate Bay")
  • FreeBay (downside: contains "eBay" in the name)
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the same "Openbay isn't available yet in your country"

ddon commented Dec 21, 2014

the same "Openbay isn't available yet in your country"

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leolara commented Dec 21, 2014

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Thanks for the feedback! The country filter was left in place from our initial pilot period and is no longer necessary. I'll have it removed shortly.

Thanks for the feedback! The country filter was left in place from our initial pilot period and is no longer necessary. I'll have it removed shortly.

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OpenCove?
ThePirateLagoon? lol

OpenCove?
ThePirateLagoon? lol

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Still getting "Openbay isn't available yet in your country"

ddon commented Dec 21, 2014

Still getting "Openbay isn't available yet in your country"

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jzjzjzj Dec 21, 2014

This project could be called AvailableBay. (:

jzjzjzj commented Dec 21, 2014

This project could be called AvailableBay. (:

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UpBay?

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jzjzjzj Dec 21, 2014

TPBB - ThePirateBayBe (as in "ThePirateBay" + "offspring/baby of TPB" + "to be").

Or simply - PeopleBay, since we're no pirates anymore and such...

jzjzjzj commented Dec 21, 2014

TPBB - ThePirateBayBe (as in "ThePirateBay" + "offspring/baby of TPB" + "to be").

Or simply - PeopleBay, since we're no pirates anymore and such...

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ThePirateBae lol

ThePirateBae lol

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@ddon Sorry, was getting a cup of coffee before I kicked off the deploy ;) You should be all set!

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@ddon Sorry, was getting a cup of coffee before I kicked off the deploy ;) You should be all set!

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dt1973 Dec 21, 2014

How about not referring to TPB at all?

This whole charade smells like a fishy marketing stunt by IsoHunt to piggyback on TPB's misfortune.

dt1973 commented Dec 21, 2014

How about not referring to TPB at all?

This whole charade smells like a fishy marketing stunt by IsoHunt to piggyback on TPB's misfortune.

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Such Bay
Very Pirate
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cpdean commented Dec 21, 2014

Such Bay
Very Pirate
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Open Seas.

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TheOpenPirate 👍

or maybe I'll "just drop the 'the'": OpenPirate

fskreuz commented Dec 21, 2014

TheOpenPirate 👍

or maybe I'll "just drop the 'the'": OpenPirate

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TheHighSeas?

TheHighSeas?

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Tortuga?

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Flotilla. Anticipating a federation among the many independent ships at sea.

Flotilla. Anticipating a federation among the many independent ships at sea.

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TPDream [The Pirate Dream]

It represents the archetype that The Pirate Bay sowed [analogy to torrent seeds] us after all this years, and makes a reference to a dream, a goal, that we aim and that will always persist no matter what authorities and governments do to destroy it. Dream also refers to something which is often related to the sky and the clouds, which is what this is all about, the internet, and sharing ideas.

TPDream [The Pirate Dream]

It represents the archetype that The Pirate Bay sowed [analogy to torrent seeds] us after all this years, and makes a reference to a dream, a goal, that we aim and that will always persist no matter what authorities and governments do to destroy it. Dream also refers to something which is often related to the sky and the clouds, which is what this is all about, the internet, and sharing ideas.

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+1 OpenPB

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+1 OpenPB
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Open Bay Project

+1 OpenPB
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Open Bay Project

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@alexanderGugel haha I quite like Tortuga!

@alexanderGugel haha I quite like Tortuga!

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repat Dec 21, 2014

German podcaster Tim Pritlove renamed his podcast Chaosradio Express to CRE because everybody was calling it that anyway. I liked the idea and would suggest this project to be called tpb.

repat commented Dec 21, 2014

German podcaster Tim Pritlove renamed his podcast Chaosradio Express to CRE because everybody was calling it that anyway. I liked the idea and would suggest this project to be called tpb.

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OpenTPB sounds fine and retains full historical integrity ;)

OpenTPB sounds fine and retains full historical integrity ;)

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sneilan Dec 22, 2014

+1 OpenPB

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+1 OpenPB

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Since it was released in github, so I prefer this one:
"torhub"/"BThub" (torrent hub) if u guys add a upload feature in openbay.

Since it was released in github, so I prefer this one:
"torhub"/"BThub" (torrent hub) if u guys add a upload feature in openbay.

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@farukuzun "LibreBay" has the same problem as "FreeBay". It contains "eBay" in its name.

vog commented Dec 22, 2014

@farukuzun "LibreBay" has the same problem as "FreeBay". It contains "eBay" in its name.

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How about UrBay?

How about UrBay?

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LibreBay sounds good too. To say LibreBay contains eBay in it is like saying that LibreOffice contains Office (I refer to MS Office suite) in it. Same thing about AbiWord containing Word in it. At least that's my common sense.

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LibreBay sounds good too. To say LibreBay contains eBay in it is like saying that LibreOffice contains Office (I refer to MS Office suite) in it. Same thing about AbiWord containing Word in it. At least that's my common sense.

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+1 for OpenCove or LibreBay

+1 for OpenCove or LibreBay

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Or the name could stay. Legally, there's (probably) nothing that could be done. I don't know if openbay.com has a trademark, but it's in an entirely different field, so the trademark has no effect.

Or the name could stay. Legally, there's (probably) nothing that could be done. I don't know if openbay.com has a trademark, but it's in an entirely different field, so the trademark has no effect.

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Ouch. So openbay.com is just collateral damage? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.

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Or the name could stay. Legally, there's (probably) nothing that could be
done. I don't know if openbay.com has a trademark, but it's in an
entirely different field, so the trademark has no effect.


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Ouch. So openbay.com is just collateral damage? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.

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Or the name could stay. Legally, there's (probably) nothing that could be
done. I don't know if openbay.com has a trademark, but it's in an
entirely different field, so the trademark has no effect.


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I suggest TheOtherOpenBay for either site.

Bacce commented Dec 22, 2014

I suggest TheOtherOpenBay for either site.

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What about GuerrillaBay?

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What about GuerrillaBay?

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+1 Flotilla

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Yeah, what what names people have used for ships or for classifying ships like Flotilla?

sneilan commented Dec 22, 2014

Yeah, what what names people have used for ships or for classifying ships like Flotilla?

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OPB
Open PirateBay
Freebay
Baysource
PB Source
Piratebay:source

Brblol commented Dec 23, 2014

OPB
Open PirateBay
Freebay
Baysource
PB Source
Piratebay:source

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@Brblol OPB - OverPoweredBay :)

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@Brblol OPB - OverPoweredBay :)

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@Brblol "PirateBay:Source" sounds like PirateBay powered by the Source game engine. :trollface:

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@Brblol "PirateBay:Source" sounds like PirateBay powered by the Source game engine. :trollface:

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@fskreuz PirateBay:GlobalOffensive :D

jzjzjzj commented Dec 23, 2014

@fskreuz PirateBay:GlobalOffensive :D

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@jzjzjzj Even better! :D

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@jzjzjzj Even better! :D

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What about Lagoon?

What about Lagoon?

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I think it's time to build a Pirate Bay States (PBS)

I think it's time to build a Pirate Bay States (PBS)

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TheFreedomBay

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TheFreedomBay

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Freetortuga (from Isla Tortuga (in)famous caribean island where pirates met)

Freetortuga (from Isla Tortuga (in)famous caribean island where pirates met)

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EBay. I'm pretty sure that one's available

EBay. I'm pretty sure that one's available

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You shut your mouth :)

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You shut your mouth :)

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@ProLoser If that's taken, maybe iBuy...

jzjzjzj commented Dec 23, 2014

@ProLoser If that's taken, maybe iBuy...

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+1 for OpenPB format.

@adambair I feel for this situation of taking his business name, but consider the boost of your name when people discover this name on the Web. Many people will just land in your page for a wrong path, but also they will discover your service. :-) If I was in your feet I will be tailoring my website at maximum to give to these users a very good impression of a service that existed before OpenBay born and has a nice relationship to their community.

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+1 for OpenPB format.

@adambair I feel for this situation of taking his business name, but consider the boost of your name when people discover this name on the Web. Many people will just land in your page for a wrong path, but also they will discover your service. :-) If I was in your feet I will be tailoring my website at maximum to give to these users a very good impression of a service that existed before OpenBay born and has a nice relationship to their community.

#my50cents

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OpenPirate, not that it really helps our credibility

OpenPirate, not that it really helps our credibility

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OpenTPB, would be a good name as someone up top suggested.

ghost commented Dec 23, 2014

OpenTPB, would be a good name as someone up top suggested.

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+1 for OpenPB

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+1 for OpenPB

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The freedom bay 👍

ghost commented Dec 24, 2014

The freedom bay 👍

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THE FREEDOM BAY

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THE FREEDOM BAY

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The Freedom Bay 👍

The Freedom Bay 👍

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I like TFB aka TheFree(Dom) Bay.

I like TFB aka TheFree(Dom) Bay.

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FreedomBay!!

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FreedomBay!!

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OpenPB fort me

OpenPB fort me

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@adambair you should also turn off SSLv3 😉

@adambair you should also turn off SSLv3 😉

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+1 openpb or opentpb

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+1 openpb or opentpb

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+1 OpenPB or FreedomBay

+1 OpenPB or FreedomBay

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Hey guys, I'm one of the other developers at www.openbay.com.

As Adam said, we've spent literally a couple of years trying to get our startup off the ground, and this really sucks for us. And I'm a fan of TPB - I've maybe even used it a few times :)

This isn't a case of some big corporation trying to exercise it's legal muscle to ward off bad PR, we're literally a few people running out of a co-working space in Cambridge, MA USA.

The thing that really sucks for us is SEO. Many users (especially older ones) have gotten in the habit of just typing "openbay" or "open bay" into google and not the URL bar - it's actually a pretty large percentage of our organic search hits. This happens even more when we're lucky enough to get any press. What those search engine users get for search results right now are a bunch of news sites about "piracy," which isn't a great thing, particularly for that demographic. It'll likely stay that way for a long time because it'll take a while for articles from the likes of Ars Technica and Techcrunch down on the search results.

So yeah, @joelwallis is right above - we did see a decent uptick in traffic when news of this project broke. But now it's back to normal - it's still a little early to tell if users are backing out when they hit the search results, but I can't imagine it won't have a negative impact.

It'd be so awesome of the project could be renamed out of the kindness of your hearts. We figured it wouldn't hurt to ask nicely. :/

[Plus if I get a vote OpenPirateBay sounds good 😁 FreedomBay isn't bad but it might not convey the FOSS aspects of the project]

Hey guys, I'm one of the other developers at www.openbay.com.

As Adam said, we've spent literally a couple of years trying to get our startup off the ground, and this really sucks for us. And I'm a fan of TPB - I've maybe even used it a few times :)

This isn't a case of some big corporation trying to exercise it's legal muscle to ward off bad PR, we're literally a few people running out of a co-working space in Cambridge, MA USA.

The thing that really sucks for us is SEO. Many users (especially older ones) have gotten in the habit of just typing "openbay" or "open bay" into google and not the URL bar - it's actually a pretty large percentage of our organic search hits. This happens even more when we're lucky enough to get any press. What those search engine users get for search results right now are a bunch of news sites about "piracy," which isn't a great thing, particularly for that demographic. It'll likely stay that way for a long time because it'll take a while for articles from the likes of Ars Technica and Techcrunch down on the search results.

So yeah, @joelwallis is right above - we did see a decent uptick in traffic when news of this project broke. But now it's back to normal - it's still a little early to tell if users are backing out when they hit the search results, but I can't imagine it won't have a negative impact.

It'd be so awesome of the project could be renamed out of the kindness of your hearts. We figured it wouldn't hurt to ask nicely. :/

[Plus if I get a vote OpenPirateBay sounds good 😁 FreedomBay isn't bad but it might not convey the FOSS aspects of the project]

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I, as an enthusiast of this project, I would really like to hear an official comment from @isohuntto

DrOptix commented Dec 26, 2014

I, as an enthusiast of this project, I would really like to hear an official comment from @isohuntto

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Hmm, I really think we should move away from PirateBay in the name, in fact, putting pirate in the name at all might not be the best idea. There might be people out there that want to use openbay for, for example, linux torrents. I think FreedomBay sounds pretty awesome, personally.

Hmm, I really think we should move away from PirateBay in the name, in fact, putting pirate in the name at all might not be the best idea. There might be people out there that want to use openbay for, for example, linux torrents. I think FreedomBay sounds pretty awesome, personally.

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@mdesjardins I believe hat FreedomBay conveys the FOSS aspects pretty well! You know, "Free" as in "Freedom", not ...

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@mdesjardins I believe hat FreedomBay conveys the FOSS aspects pretty well! You know, "Free" as in "Freedom", not ...

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bump re: @DrOptix +1 would love to hear something from @isohuntto on this issue!

bump re: @DrOptix +1 would love to hear something from @isohuntto on this issue!

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I think that all these Open... Names should be reserved for OpenSource projects. Otherwise, the name missleads to thinking the company would produce OpenSource Code.

There are a lot of Open.. thingies: OpenGL, OpenAL, OpenCV etc.

Turakar commented Dec 31, 2014

I think that all these Open... Names should be reserved for OpenSource projects. Otherwise, the name missleads to thinking the company would produce OpenSource Code.

There are a lot of Open.. thingies: OpenGL, OpenAL, OpenCV etc.

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openTPB 👍

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openTPB 👍

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how about openPirate :D

how about openPirate :D

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Tortuga +1

Tortuga +1

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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

OpenBay sponsored by OpenBay. That should take care of your SEO.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

OpenBay sponsored by OpenBay. That should take care of your SEO.

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mdesjardins Jan 4, 2015

@isohuntto - any thoughts on this issue? Hate to be a pest but it really affects us 😟

@isohuntto - any thoughts on this issue? Hate to be a pest but it really affects us 😟

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