Difference between Normal and Loose styles?

[zevv]

Hi,

For some reason the Normal and Loose styles render the same for my terminal, see the screenshots at:

xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'

http://zevv.nl/div/mono16-loose.png
http://zevv.nl/div/mono16-normal.png
http://zevv.nl/div/mono16-tight.png

$ fc-list  | grep Mono16
/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/mono16/Mono16-Tight.ttf: Mono16:style=Tight
/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/mono16/Mono16-Loose.ttf: Mono16:style=Loose
/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/mono16/Mono16-Normal.ttf: Mono16:style=Normal

[larsenwork]

That is very strange, I haven't used any "tricks" or anything that could explain that. I've used UPM 2048 and Glyphs in loose are 1152 wide and regular 1024.
I assume it's displaying correctly in other programs?
What terminal are you using?

[zevv]

• On 2015-04-06 15:46:02 +0200, Andreas Larsen wrote:

That is very strange, I haven't used any "tricks" or anything that could explain that. I've used UPM 2048 and Glyphs in loose are 1152 wide and regular 1024.
I assume it's displaying correctly in other programs?
What terminal are you using?

I tried in urxvt, rxvt and xterm, all with similar results. The funny
thing is that if I install only the Loose font, it still renders like
the Normal in your screenshot. Ill compare in more detail when I'm back
t my PC.

:wq
^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C

[larsenwork]

Ok, I have a "hack" idea if your further inspection doesn't explain it

[zevv]

• On 2015-04-06 17:47:06 +0200, Andreas Larsen wrote:

Ok, I have an idea if your further inspection doesn't explain it

I just pasted one of your example snippets in xterm with only the Loose
font installed, but it renders exactly similar to the Normal type
instead.

http://zevv.nl/div/normal-or-loose.png

:wq
^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C

[larsenwork]

and this is the latest version (0.23 Loose, 0.24 Normal - not that I've changed anything but just to make sure we're not beating a dead horse)

[zevv]

• On 2015-04-06 18:41:59 +0200, Andreas Larsen wrote:

and this is the latest version (0.23 Loose, 0.24 Normal - not that
I've changed anything but just to make sure we're not beating a dead
horse)

Original problem showed with 0.22, but still persists with 0.23.

:wq
^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C

[larsenwork]

Try this: https://github.com/andreaslarsen/mono16/blob/master/Resources/Testing/LooseTest.ttf?raw=true

[chase]

@zevv I'm not sure if this was simply a typo, but if you ran screenshots for

xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'

then the results would all be the same, as the style is set to Loose for all of them.

[zevv]

• On 2015-04-16 05:09:37 +0200, Chase Colman wrote:

@zevv I'm not sure if this was simply a typo, but if you ran screenshots for

xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'
xterm -fa 'Mono16:pixelsize=16:style=Loose'

Then the results would all be the same, as the style is set to Loose for all of them.

That was indeed a typo, but thanks for noticing!

:wq
^X^Cy^K^X^C^C^C^C

[larsenwork]

@zevv try the updated fonts from http://andreaslarsen.github.io/monoid/ - how do they look?