Deal with name clash with opentabs.de #9

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michielbdejong commented Oct 14, 2016

Through an unfortunate event of independent discovery, a German startup chose to call themselves opentabs.de, a few weeks after we renamed from "Unpaid transactions: owe a bro" to "OpenTabs: Money without Banks". They have an app on both Android and iOS, that is unrelated to open decentralized payments, but that does happen to involve money payments (it's a tool for ordering food/drinks and paying for them - a bit like McDonald's self-ordering kiosks, but on your smartphone).

The confusion could be quite annoying as people read about the original OpenTabs.net and ask whether there's a startup behind it - they're going to assume opentabs.de is the startup behind opentabs.net...

They also registered trademarks and bought the .com domain, which now redirects to their .de. In any case, it would be annoying for both projects if we keep working under the same name, and now (before publishing the whitepaper) would be a good moment for a name-change...

But I can't really think about a name that is as good as "open tabs". If I come up with something, I'll comment on this thread (please do the same if you have a suggestion for a better name for either the concept of second-order promise loops, or for the message protocol that allows persons to exchange and check/evaluate them.

Maybe renaming 'loops' to 'chains' is more accurate, and also has a nice reference to "blockchain, but better" :)

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Too bad "FlockChain" is taken, that would be a cool name! :)

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michielbdejong commented Oct 14, 2016

Too bad "FlockChain" is taken, that would be a cool name! :)

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"LedgerLoops"! :) It's not as easy to understand as an app name (because ledger is a technical term and the loops underlying the algorithm don't really matter for users to understand what functionality they get), but as a name for this financial technology, it's much more accurate and descriptive. Also the name sounds happy and "loopy" ;) which is a fresh change from most names you could come up with when describing money/coins/network/digital/cryptographic/privacy/decentralization.

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"LedgerLoops"! :) It's not as easy to understand as an app name (because ledger is a technical term and the loops underlying the algorithm don't really matter for users to understand what functionality they get), but as a name for this financial technology, it's much more accurate and descriptive. Also the name sounds happy and "loopy" ;) which is a fresh change from most names you could come up with when describing money/coins/network/digital/cryptographic/privacy/decentralization.

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Ah, and also, the .com domain name was still free, unlike for instance LedgerNet or similar names, and nothing is called LedgerLoops yet (or at least nothing that shows up in search engines).

For the record, a screenshot from 28 October 2016:

ledgerloops-did-you-mean-28-10-2016

Any other payments-related startups out there with more name-stealing-plans, you have been warned ;)

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michielbdejong commented Oct 28, 2016

Ah, and also, the .com domain name was still free, unlike for instance LedgerNet or similar names, and nothing is called LedgerLoops yet (or at least nothing that shows up in search engines).

For the record, a screenshot from 28 October 2016:

ledgerloops-did-you-mean-28-10-2016

Any other payments-related startups out there with more name-stealing-plans, you have been warned ;)

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Ironically, LedgerLoop(s) clashes with this trademark from 10 years ago... Naming is hard! :) But I think, since that's from a while ago, and Roger told me he's now working on TAMS instead, it's not as confusing as opentabs was. Oh well! :)

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michielbdejong commented Feb 15, 2017

Ironically, LedgerLoop(s) clashes with this trademark from 10 years ago... Naming is hard! :) But I think, since that's from a while ago, and Roger told me he's now working on TAMS instead, it's not as confusing as opentabs was. Oh well! :)

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