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Local .lan domain not easy to use on mobile and on Chrome/Chromium #540

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ilario opened this issue Jun 22, 2019 · 3 comments

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commented Jun 22, 2019

The currently in use local domain (FQDN) .lan works perfectly when using Firefox on desktop or on mobile.
As reported by a user on lime-users mailing list, on most of the other browsers (I tested Chrome, Chromium, Opera, Samsung Internet Browser) either on desktop or on mobile, when typing lime-ddeeff.lan this string is searched on search engines rather than opened as an URL.

On desktop, Chrome/Chromium show this message, on mobile they don't and neither other browser do.

Screenshot from 2019-06-22 20-38-52

This is easy to workaround either adding a slash lime-ddeeff.lan/ or specifying the protocol http://lime-ddeeff.lan, still this can be a problem for most of the users.

Two possible solutions have been proposed in the mailing list:

  • use an accepted but abandoned top level domain (to be tested .bv .sj .iq .um .su .gb .gu .kp)
  • use an existing and reliable domain (like thisnode.info which is owned by Altermundi community network and is already used for connecting to the closest network node) which would result in something like lime-ddeeff.thisnode.info
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commented Jun 22, 2019

Altermundi also owns the libre.social domain, that i think it is much better suited for this.
There was an approach for this already implemented... can you remember @nicoechaniz @altergui ?

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commented Jun 23, 2019

@nicopace In #541 I suggested thisnode.info also because users already know and remember that, as it is already in use.

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commented Sep 5, 2019

When I was watching a libremesh workshop in Brazil I noticed that they were teaching how to access with the url nodename.lan.
In my case I never used because I always specified my own domain in /etc/lime/config or I access through http://nodename
I mean that there are already people accustomed to .lan, which being "neutral" in different languages and is definitely shorter.
The only point in favor of thisnode.info is that we can show a message if it is accessing through the 3G connection of a cell phone instead of WiFi. As thisnode.info is the domain of anygw we can add that feature anyway.

Researching a little I came to this Chromium Wontfix https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=30636
Instead of adding http:// at the beginning it is only necessary to add one / at the end. A sad decision that only benefits Google.

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