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Chapter 10 errata: termset magic etc. #289

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commented Jul 27, 2017

Errata from https://mw.lojban.org/papri/CLL,_aka_Reference_Grammar,_Errata

Chapter 10

  • Section 4, "when both spatial and temporal tense cmavo are given in a single tense construct, the temporal tense is expressed first" disagrees with the rule simple-tense-modal-972 in the BNF grammar.
  • Section 21, example 21.1 doesn't seem to parallel the English gloss and translation: the Lojban version implies that "I throw the gun", and not "I fire the gun".
  • Section 25, this whole section is at odds with the formal grammar. It says: ''It is grammatical for a termset to be placed after a tense or modal tag rather than a sumti''. But that is in fact incorrect, it is not grammatical for a termset to be the argument of a tag.
    ** Unfortunately true. Termsets suck rocks, and some work will have to be done to make everything said about them consistent -- if it is even possible. Personally, I'd like to just burn them. --[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]] '''NOFIX'''
    ** Replaced with two termsets connected with {fau} in the first example, and termset-free {zu'a va} in the second.
Chapter 10 errata: termset magic etc.
Errata from https://mw.lojban.org/papri/CLL,_aka_Reference_Grammar,_Errata

Chapter 10

* Section 4, "when both spatial and temporal tense cmavo are given in a single tense construct, the temporal tense is expressed first" disagrees with the rule simple-tense-modal-972 in the BNF grammar.
* Section 21, example 21.1 doesn't seem to parallel the English gloss and translation: the Lojban version implies that "I throw the gun", and not "I fire the gun".
* Section 25, this whole section is at odds with the formal grammar. It says: ''It is grammatical for a termset to be placed after a tense or modal tag rather than a sumti''.  But that is in fact incorrect, it is not grammatical for a termset to be the argument of a tag.
** Unfortunately true.  Termsets suck rocks, and some work will have to be done to make everything said about them consistent -- if it is even possible.  Personally, I'd like to just burn them.  --[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]  '''NOFIX'''
** Replaced with two termsets connected with {fau} in the first example, and termset-free {zu'a va} in the second.
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commented Jul 28, 2017

.i cylyly xi pa pi'e re zo'u i'enai i zo cecla ge'e naldrani gi'e na ge'e toldrani

@lagleki lagleki added this to the CLL 1.2 milestone Jul 28, 2017

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commented Nov 9, 2018

cecla is in #296

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