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mate-keyring doesn't save password #2

martinkrung opened this Issue · 16 comments

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I also have this problem on LM12

kill mate-keyring-daemon

will solve it, but then just gnome-keyring-daemon is used, which works for me.

why start both gnome-keyring-daemon and mate-keyring-daemon

meybe this is anyway an question for the mint guys..


I can confirm that the issue already in fedora exist.
mate-keying doen't save any login keyring data in /home/user/.mate2/keyrings
A other fedora user reported that no wifi password from networkmanager would save in result of this error.
After a logout he has to enter the password again.

For me it's not exeptable to use gnome-keyring because why mate have this package.


This happend if i start bastile from the terminal.

[rave@mother ~]$ bastile
** Message: init gpgme version 1.3.0
** Message: secret service operation failed: Couldn't retrieve properties: Internal error
** Message: secret service operation failed: Couldn't retrieve properties: Internal error
** Message: failed to retrieve info for keyring login: Error communicating with mate-keyring-daemon
** Message: secret service operation failed: Couldn't retrieve properties: Internal error


bastile is not part of MATE


Hi Stefano,
i know basitle is not a official mate packages, but i use several package from this github for fedora because they work and they are consequently renamed.
Bastile is not the problem. With basite i wanted to show you what's the problem is and it's still exists not only in fedora.
With seahorse you can't do that because it asked for gnome-keyring.
But i figure out a part of the problem.
I delete with bastile the login keyring from the install of mate-keyring, create a new one and than the error from the terminal is gone.
But i missed login keyring infos in /home/user/.mate2/keyrings !
Mate-keyring doesn't save any login info's.
Sorry that's the problem and not using bastile.



I know... that was just to clarify :)


Ok, i've recognize the issue. It's a problem with the pam files from gdm if we use gdm.
Adding those lines to

-- /etc/pam.d/gdm
auth optional
session optional auto_start
-- /etc/pam.d/gdm-password
auth optional
session optional auto_start
-- /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin
session optional auto_start

fixed the issue.
[rave@mother ~]$ pgrep -fl key
1304 /usr/bin/system-setup-keyboard
3690 /usr/bin/mate-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login

[rave@mother ~]$ ls /home/rave/.config/mate/keyrings
default user.keystore user.keystore.KRJRAW user.keystore.SBEOAW
login.keyring user.keystore.H38YAW user.keystore.NKOJAW wolfgang.keyring

With mdm it's the same. I think it must be similar with other display manager.
I 'll be fixed the pam files in mdm.


Some user in the german fedora forum told me that networmanager and evolution doesn' find any keyring for wifi and the online calender funktion.

e-data-server-ui-Message: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring reports: Keine passenden Ergebnisse)
Gkr-Message: secret service operation failed: The algorithm 'dh-ietf1024-sha256-aes128-cbc-pkcs7' is not supported

(evolution:11106): e-data-server-ui-WARNING **: Unable to create password in keyring (Keyring reports: Fehler bei der Kommunikation mit dem GNOME-Schlüsselbunddienst)

It seems that evolution and networkmanager don't know where mate-keyring save the login keyring.
My problem is that i don't have wifi at my home for testing this issue.

Does this problem also exists in other distros?

For the moment i think about to switch to gnome-keyring for the mate-fedora until this issue is fixed.


I figure out that it's absolute necessary to use gnome-keyring for networkmanager and evolution-contacts.
But this work only if mate-keyring is complete removed.
Because most user used those popular programes i prepare a swich to gnome-keyring for the moment until we found a other solution.
Do anyone know which mate programes doesn't work without the mate-keyring-daemon ?


Are you sure? I have gnome-keyring with mate-keyring, and I have networkmanager saving passwords without issues.


Today i figure out that it isn't necessary to uninstall mate-keyring but it's necessary to deaktivate the 4 mate-keyring daemons in autostart.
Also i need this two lines in /etc/pam.d/mdm
auth optional
session optional auto_start

Without them /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.secrets.service doeesn't start for networkmanager.
All tested with a umts-stick.

Which display manager do you use?
And do you have all 8 keyring daemons (4 mate +4 gnome) in mate-session-properties aktivated?

New expierience from a user in the english fedora forum.


This issue exist only if using gnome programs.
For fedora we found a workaround if someone use networkmanager or evolution.
In general i think why we have an extra keyring program, other desktops like xfce, lxde and kde use also gnome-keyring.
For a user would be this a better solution.

my 2 cents

close for me


I also have this issue.

1) The networkmanager doesn't remember the pppoe password, so I need to enter its password everytime.
2) Gajim Jabber client fails to add an account when entered a password: .

OS: Ubuntu 12.04.


I did this:

sudo aptitude remove mate-keyring

After reboot, this issue doesn't trigger anymore. NM and Gajim work excellently.

@stefano-k stefano-k was assigned

fixed in mate-keyring 1.3.1 and libmatekeyring 1.3.0

@stefano-k stefano-k closed this

Hi Stefano,
for my knownlege, does this mean we don't need gnome-keyring anymore for networkmanager and other gnome apps?
Or isn't it necessary disable or uninstall mate-keyring for using networkmanager?


you can use mate-keyring or gnome-keyring, at your choice

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