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Use the "Left Menu" as default menu for all Piwik users #7169

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mattab opened this Issue Feb 10, 2015 · 15 comments

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mattab commented Feb 10, 2015

The goal of this issue is to consider the idea of setting the Left Menu as the default menu for new piwik users.

Why make the left menu the default?

  • the left menu helps usability by making a better use of the screen estate.
  • our reporting menu is a two-level menu, having it to the left simply is more usable as user does not need to move the mouse as precisely as when it is on the top
  • it will still be possible to set it back to the top (unless we remove this feature and only stick the menu to the left for all users?)

Related to #6917, #7093

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👍 for only supporting left menu and no possibility to move it back to the top. Even if some users would like to have a top menu they most likely wouldn't find the setting for this anyway and I don't think the top menu has many advantages and is not worth supporting it. One can't make it right for everyone, people could develop a theme for it though if they want to. Eg it makes everything complicated as we'd always have to test LeftMenu w/o ZenMode, LeftMenu + Zenmode, TopMenu w/o ZenMode, TopMenu + ZenMode etc. This is already quite difficult to make sure everything works in all cases. Ideally, we can maybe even get rid of ZenMode afterwards.

If people still want to use the whole space I would rather support a minimal left menu that takes only a couple of pixel on the left so that one can collapse it basically.

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tsteur commented Feb 12, 2015

👍 for only supporting left menu and no possibility to move it back to the top. Even if some users would like to have a top menu they most likely wouldn't find the setting for this anyway and I don't think the top menu has many advantages and is not worth supporting it. One can't make it right for everyone, people could develop a theme for it though if they want to. Eg it makes everything complicated as we'd always have to test LeftMenu w/o ZenMode, LeftMenu + Zenmode, TopMenu w/o ZenMode, TopMenu + ZenMode etc. This is already quite difficult to make sure everything works in all cases. Ideally, we can maybe even get rid of ZenMode afterwards.

If people still want to use the whole space I would rather support a minimal left menu that takes only a couple of pixel on the left so that one can collapse it basically.

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agreed, 👍 with left menu only I think it would be an improvement

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mnapoli commented Feb 12, 2015

agreed, 👍 with left menu only I think it would be an improvement

@mattab mattab changed the title from Use the "Left Menu" as default menu for new Piwik users to Use the "Left Menu" as default menu for all Piwik users Mar 31, 2015

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Updated issue title as per your feedback -> we shall only support Left Menu and remove completely top menu design and feature.

  • Remove Left menu settings, etc.
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mattab commented Mar 31, 2015

Updated issue title as per your feedback -> we shall only support Left Menu and remove completely top menu design and feature.

  • Remove Left menu settings, etc.

@mattab mattab modified the milestones: Piwik 2.14.0, Short term Mar 31, 2015

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+1 for focusing solely on left-menu and make it perfect... its not only that almost everybody in the industry is going for such a left-menu approach.. its just user-friendly because virtually everybody is having a 16:9 screen ratio and top menu is waste of screen estate

Glisse1 commented Mar 31, 2015

+1 for focusing solely on left-menu and make it perfect... its not only that almost everybody in the industry is going for such a left-menu approach.. its just user-friendly because virtually everybody is having a 16:9 screen ratio and top menu is waste of screen estate

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IgitBuh May 20, 2015

In case you change that please make it at least optional. I have all my tabs on the left side in a tree menu (https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/). I believe I'm not the only one. Sometimes I see people having their task bar on the left side. I'd highly appreciate it if the menu in Piwik would optionally stay at the top and not be forced to the left leaving less space for analysis columns. Thank you.

IgitBuh commented May 20, 2015

In case you change that please make it at least optional. I have all my tabs on the left side in a tree menu (https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/). I believe I'm not the only one. Sometimes I see people having their task bar on the left side. I'd highly appreciate it if the menu in Piwik would optionally stay at the top and not be forced to the left leaving less space for analysis columns. Thank you.

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Moving to 3.0.0 as we discussed it will be added there

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tsteur commented Jun 9, 2015

Moving to 3.0.0 as we discussed it will be added there

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It will be time consuming for us to maintain both designs:

  • Top menu
  • and Left menu

Therefore we would like to completely remove the Reporting Top Menu, and the LeftMenu plugin, and the Zen Mode, and have only one style.

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mattab commented Aug 13, 2015

It will be time consuming for us to maintain both designs:

  • Top menu
  • and Left menu

Therefore we would like to completely remove the Reporting Top Menu, and the LeftMenu plugin, and the Zen Mode, and have only one style.

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fixed in #8936

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mattab commented Oct 7, 2015

fixed in #8936

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the left menu helps usability by making a better use of the screen estate.

I disagree. I am working on a rotated screen (1080 × 1920) with a custom three-column dashboard. The new left menu takes approximately a quarter of my available space, and my dashboard columns got pretty narrow. I am definitely considering downgrading to 2.14.

yggi49 commented Oct 22, 2015

the left menu helps usability by making a better use of the screen estate.

I disagree. I am working on a rotated screen (1080 × 1920) with a custom three-column dashboard. The new left menu takes approximately a quarter of my available space, and my dashboard columns got pretty narrow. I am definitely considering downgrading to 2.14.

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Thank you for completely destroying the experience for me. It's disgusting. The left menu now pointlessly takes 1/4 of the screen. Thus, 2.14 is the last possible version for me.

Dehumanizer77 commented Oct 22, 2015

Thank you for completely destroying the experience for me. It's disgusting. The left menu now pointlessly takes 1/4 of the screen. Thus, 2.14 is the last possible version for me.

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With design changes, it is difficult to get everyone on board. Overall we are confident it is an improvement for most people.

Maybe in the future someone will write a Theme for Piwik where the menu is displayed at the top?

Also we are thinking of ways to "toggle" the menu so that you could hide it and enjoy the full width of screen.

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mattab commented Oct 22, 2015

With design changes, it is difficult to get everyone on board. Overall we are confident it is an improvement for most people.

Maybe in the future someone will write a Theme for Piwik where the menu is displayed at the top?

Also we are thinking of ways to "toggle" the menu so that you could hide it and enjoy the full width of screen.

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Dehumanizer77 Oct 22, 2015

At least the toggle would be nice, but as it is now, it's unusable for me. I will have to downgrade, but I'm not sure if there were any changes to the database. Can I simply switch to 2.14.3 without making any changes to the database?

Dehumanizer77 commented Oct 22, 2015

At least the toggle would be nice, but as it is now, it's unusable for me. I will have to downgrade, but I'm not sure if there were any changes to the database. Can I simply switch to 2.14.3 without making any changes to the database?

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A toggle would be great. I think a different set of CSS rules should be sufficient to move the menu back to the top and provide an acceptable user experience.

yggi49 commented Oct 22, 2015

A toggle would be great. I think a different set of CSS rules should be sufficient to move the menu back to the top and provide an acceptable user experience.

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I just created and added a custom stylesheet to my browser that moves the menu back to the top. At least it does the job for me in Chromium/Linux. It ain’t too pretty—especially the submenus would need further work and aren’t really accessibility-friendly—but at least it’s a start for desktop users who have a mouse.

Check out https://gist.github.com/yggi49/856df1e553391baa759b if you are interested.

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yggi49 commented Oct 22, 2015

I just created and added a custom stylesheet to my browser that moves the menu back to the top. At least it does the job for me in Chromium/Linux. It ain’t too pretty—especially the submenus would need further work and aren’t really accessibility-friendly—but at least it’s a start for desktop users who have a mouse.

Check out https://gist.github.com/yggi49/856df1e553391baa759b if you are interested.

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Dehumanizer77 Oct 22, 2015

Thanks a lot, yggi! It works with Firefox and Stylish plugin too. You just made my day :-)

Dehumanizer77 commented Oct 22, 2015

Thanks a lot, yggi! It works with Firefox and Stylish plugin too. You just made my day :-)

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