Consider support for French sovereign operating system

[ndeloof]

French government announced, as part of “digital sovereignty” effort, to consider building a fresh new 100% French operating system - yes, just like North Corea does.
Would be great if we still can run docker on this OS.

[vdemeester]

@ndeloof you are trolling hard 😝

[vdemeester]

@ndeloof you are trolling hard 😝

[jmMeessen]

I thought the belgians were champion of surrealism...

[jmMeessen]

I thought the belgians were champion of surrealism...

[dadoonet]

lol. I meant PTDR.

Can you translate it to French please?

[dadoonet]

lol. I meant PTDR.

Can you translate it to French please?

[bortzmeyer]

Let's make facts straight: it was not the French government but the French Parliament (actually, just the "Commission des Lois de l'Assemblée Nationale") which recently voted such a text. Noone knows if it will turn in an actual law and, if so, if this law will ever be implemented.

[bortzmeyer]

Let's make facts straight: it was not the French government but the French Parliament (actually, just the "Commission des Lois de l'Assemblée Nationale") which recently voted such a text. Noone knows if it will turn in an actual law and, if so, if this law will ever be implemented.

[bankair]

No need. French government is planning to put up is own sovereign container system, called: 'Débardeur'.

[bankair]

No need. French government is planning to put up is own sovereign container system, called: 'Débardeur'.

[thaJeztah]

I created a branch to work on this; master...thaJeztah:god-save-the-queen

The first commit depends on changes in Bash/sh upstream, and is to make scripting compliant with the European standards; 619de97

So, to give users a good experience out of the box, we may need to
update some basics to make people feel more "at home".

Here's some thoughts to get the ball rolling;

Current	Proposed	Alternative
docker run	docker courir
docker stop	docker arrêt
docker restart	docker repartir	docker encore-une-fois
docker pull	docker faire-apporter	docker tirer
--help	--rtfm	--cherchez-stackoverflow

WDYT?

[thaJeztah]

I created a branch to work on this; master...thaJeztah:god-save-the-queen

The first commit depends on changes in Bash/sh upstream, and is to make scripting compliant with the European standards; 619de97

So, to give users a good experience out of the box, we may need to
update some basics to make people feel more "at home".

Here's some thoughts to get the ball rolling;

Current	Proposed	Alternative
docker run	docker courir
docker stop	docker arrêt
docker restart	docker repartir	docker encore-une-fois
docker pull	docker faire-apporter	docker tirer
--help	--rtfm	--cherchez-stackoverflow

WDYT?

[vdemeester]

@thaJeztah 😏 😌 😻

[vdemeester]

@thaJeztah 😏 😌 😻

[mijamo]

--rtfm should be --llpm

I also think this is not going far enough, there should be an alias for docker, as the correct french term is actually débardeur ( http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/d%C3%A9bardeur )

So "débardeur tirer" for example, sounds like the correct french version.

[mijamo]

--rtfm should be --llpm

I also think this is not going far enough, there should be an alias for docker, as the correct french term is actually débardeur ( http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/d%C3%A9bardeur )

So "débardeur tirer" for example, sounds like the correct french version.

[acaranta]

I'd love to reply in French ... however I have a legacy French AZERTY keyboard, which does not allow to type correct French ... DAMN !

[acaranta]

I'd love to reply in French ... however I have a legacy French AZERTY keyboard, which does not allow to type correct French ... DAMN !

[Pierstoval]

In love with this issue already ❤️

[Pierstoval]

In love with this issue already ❤️

[brouberol]

I don't know any of you. But I love you all very much.

[brouberol]

I don't know any of you. But I love you all very much.

[seeschloss]

@thaJeztah docker pull is already French, I suggest you keep it as is but translate it in the English version to docker sweater instead.

[seeschloss]

@thaJeztah docker pull is already French, I suggest you keep it as is but translate it in the English version to docker sweater instead.

[brouberol]

Also, docker logs should be docker bûches.

[brouberol]

Also, docker logs should be docker bûches.

[turb]

What about an automatic illegal content detection plugin, enforcing the incoming law[1] on running containered process memory? It seems this issue has a dependency on it.

[1] http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/amendements/3399/AN/268.asp

[turb]

What about an automatic illegal content detection plugin, enforcing the incoming law[1] on running containered process memory? It seems this issue has a dependency on it.

[1] http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/amendements/3399/AN/268.asp

[vendethiel]

Warnings, everyone. France has forbidden linking to resources you don't own or don't have explicitly the right to link to.

[vendethiel]

Warnings, everyone. France has forbidden linking to resources you don't own or don't have explicitly the right to link to.

[keyral]

@thaJeztah docker pull is but translate in french to docker poule.

[keyral]

@thaJeztah docker pull is but translate in french to docker poule.

[xlucas]

I'm confident this issue gonna hit the emergency milestone for a few years.

[xlucas]

I'm confident this issue gonna hit the emergency milestone for a few years.

[k3ck3c]

the hadrware is available, 100% french, with a french keyboard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZT9Yd_WYAAGnDS.jpg

[k3ck3c]

the hadrware is available, 100% french, with a french keyboard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZT9Yd_WYAAGnDS.jpg

[crapougnax]

What is a container filled with politicians at the bottom of the ocean?
...
...
A good start.

[crapougnax]

What is a container filled with politicians at the bottom of the ocean?
...
...
A good start.

[waoufi]

You guys, made my day <3

[waoufi]

You guys, made my day <3

[stephaneerard]

This issue should have id #1789

[stephaneerard]

This issue should have id #1789

[tobozo]

That's not the first time this idea pops up, BASIC language already supported this curse https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSE_%28langage_de_programmation%29

[tobozo]

That's not the first time this idea pops up, BASIC language already supported this curse https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSE_%28langage_de_programmation%29

[turb]

@tobozo did you clear the copyright of this image? Fair use does not apply in France; you should ask Github legal representative to the Commissariat à la Souveraineté Numérique.

[turb]

@tobozo did you clear the copyright of this image? Fair use does not apply in France; you should ask Github legal representative to the Commissariat à la Souveraineté Numérique.

[AlexisNo]

It is more common to use the English word "docker" than "débardeur" in French. Actually, I even didn't know that this word had this signification! Even wikipedia name it "docker" in it's french version. For me, as a french guy, a "débardeur" is this:

And to truly translate commands from english to french, we should invert the order of words:

• docker run => cours débardeur / démarre débardeur
• docker stop => arrête débardeur
• docker push => pousse débardeur
• docker pull => tire débardeur could maybe be aliased as déshabille (undress)
• etc ...

[AlexisNo]

It is more common to use the English word "docker" than "débardeur" in French. Actually, I even didn't know that this word had this signification! Even wikipedia name it "docker" in it's french version. For me, as a french guy, a "débardeur" is this:

And to truly translate commands from english to french, we should invert the order of words:

• docker run => cours débardeur / démarre débardeur
• docker stop => arrête débardeur
• docker push => pousse débardeur
• docker pull => tire débardeur could maybe be aliased as déshabille (undress)
• etc ...

[brouberol]

A common french synonym for "débardeur" is "marcel". For example, I propose to replace docker push par pousse Marcel.

It has a nice french ring to it, and is shorter to type.

[brouberol]

A common french synonym for "débardeur" is "marcel". For example, I propose to replace docker push par pousse Marcel.

It has a nice french ring to it, and is shorter to type.

[Quentin-M]

The word « débardeur » is an old word which is basically not used anymore in this context and that applied only to trees/wood debarkations.

[Quentin-M]

The word « débardeur » is an old word which is basically not used anymore in this context and that applied only to trees/wood debarkations.

[tgermain]

+1 for the "it's shorter" argument @brouberol

[tgermain]

+1 for the "it's shorter" argument @brouberol

[jefmathiot]

@brouberol there's a potential issue with docker ps. The only translation I could figure out is marcel socialiste which may soon become inappropriate.

[jefmathiot]

@brouberol there's a potential issue with docker ps. The only translation I could figure out is marcel socialiste which may soon become inappropriate.

[mijamo]

I disagree, you do not pull / push the docker, it's the docker who pushes / pulls.

So it is indeed débardeur pousse.

The word débardeur is not used anymore but obviously the necessity of national independence means that we will have to use that word again, to replace to barbarism "docker".

I also propose that the images of the sovereign OS should all be hosted in the sovereign cloud.

[mijamo]

I disagree, you do not pull / push the docker, it's the docker who pushes / pulls.

So it is indeed débardeur pousse.

The word débardeur is not used anymore but obviously the necessity of national independence means that we will have to use that word again, to replace to barbarism "docker".

I also propose that the images of the sovereign OS should all be hosted in the sovereign cloud.

[ndeloof]

"Marcel" definitively is an awesome translation for Docker. It even has same number of letters, so will help to adapt logos and documentation.

[ndeloof]

"Marcel" definitively is an awesome translation for Docker. It even has same number of letters, so will help to adapt logos and documentation.

[sieben]

👍 marcel: c'est pas sorcier :-)

[sieben]

👍 marcel: c'est pas sorcier :-)

[xlucas]

👍 Marcel sounds like an outstanding first step in the compliance process.

[xlucas]

👍 Marcel sounds like an outstanding first step in the compliance process.

[melix]

+1 for Marcel. I can't wait to use chauffe Marcel in place of docker run!

[melix]

+1 for Marcel. I can't wait to use chauffe Marcel in place of docker run!

[k3ck3c]

This should be coded in LEM, some kind of Cobol with a french syntax from the french manufacturer Sfena
http://www.silicium.org/oldskool/france/sfena5_20.htm

[k3ck3c]

This should be coded in LEM, some kind of Cobol with a french syntax from the french manufacturer Sfena
http://www.silicium.org/oldskool/france/sfena5_20.htm

[stevedesmond-ca]

Marcel could legitimately just be a separate cli app/script to route args to docker proper -- who will create this new project?

[stevedesmond-ca]

Marcel could legitimately just be a separate cli app/script to route args to docker proper -- who will create this new project?

[brouberol]

I'm happy there seems to be some kind of consensus around Marcel. I
feel I have finally contributed to the open-source world in a meaningful
way, whilst being a true patriot.

B

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 06:13 PM, Steve Desmond wrote:

Marcel could legitimately just be a separate cli app/script to route args to docker proper -- who will create this new project?

—
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub[1].

Links:

1. docker#19396 (comment)

[brouberol]

I'm happy there seems to be some kind of consensus around Marcel. I
feel I have finally contributed to the open-source world in a meaningful
way, whilst being a true patriot.

B

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 06:13 PM, Steve Desmond wrote:

Marcel could legitimately just be a separate cli app/script to route args to docker proper -- who will create this new project?

—
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub[1].

Links:

1. docker#19396 (comment)

[kyzh]

We also need to replace RMI Marcel by RSA Marcel since this 2009 Décret: http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/decret/2009/4/15/PRMX0903263D/jo/texte

[kyzh]

We also need to replace RMI Marcel by RSA Marcel since this 2009 Décret: http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/decret/2009/4/15/PRMX0903263D/jo/texte

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@tatic0

“Et ta soeur, elle est folle?”
😉 🍷

(autocomplete suggested me that wine glass was close enough of wink)

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@tatic0

“Et ta soeur, elle est folle?”
😉 🍷

(autocomplete suggested me that wine glass was close enough of wink)

[ariane6]

mdr! (mort(e) de rire) = lol in French

[ariane6]

mdr! (mort(e) de rire) = lol in French

[Biromain]

Current	Proposed	Alternative
docker deamon	marcel génie	marcel frotte-lampe	We use /courrir/marcel.chaussette on unix
docker volume rm	marcel tome expulsé	marcel charter
docker login	marcel vos-papiers	marcel douane
docker logout	marcel dehors	marcel ouste
docker build	marcel construire	marcel btp
docker cp	marcel plagiat	marcel triche
docker import	marcel sous-traitance
docker port	marcel péage
docker info	marcel prospectus	marcel brochure
docker top	marcel effectifs		Always empty if container name is La-Poste

Edit based on @AdrieanKhisbe suggestions
Edit: Add some translations

[Biromain]

Current	Proposed	Alternative
docker deamon	marcel génie	marcel frotte-lampe	We use /courrir/marcel.chaussette on unix
docker volume rm	marcel tome expulsé	marcel charter
docker login	marcel vos-papiers	marcel douane
docker logout	marcel dehors	marcel ouste
docker build	marcel construire	marcel btp
docker cp	marcel plagiat	marcel triche
docker import	marcel sous-traitance
docker port	marcel péage
docker info	marcel prospectus	marcel brochure
docker top	marcel effectifs		Always empty if container name is La-Poste

Edit based on @AdrieanKhisbe suggestions
Edit: Add some translations

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@Biromain
Idées suppliémentaires, quelques suggestions calembourgs alternatifs

Some Addition

• 1 + 1 = 2
• docker cp -> (alt) marcel triche
• docker login -> marcel vos-papiers (de @brouberol)
• docker logout -> marcel dehors, marcel ouste

volume -> ouvrage, or better tome (tomme de savoie (on va pas en faire un frommage))

Une Correction

🙌

for daemon, the correct translation in french is not demon, devil (there is the same problem with hacker where thanks to french journalist is understood as black hat)

cf https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/daemon

From Latin daemon ‎(“genius, lar, guardian spirit”), from Ancient Greek δαίμων ‎(daímōn, “dispenser, god, protective spirit”).

Hence will be better marcel génie, (acknowledging french ingéniosité 🇫🇷 😁),
marcel esprit, (or marcel mauvais-esprit ^^)

Another alternative marcel gardien (et marcel goal or even marcel desailly
Or even marcel immortel to have academy française support

So no esclave, Libertée, Libertée Chérie!

marcel génie, esprit, mauvais-esprit, guardien,deseilly

N'est ce pas mieux? 😃

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@Biromain
Idées suppliémentaires, quelques suggestions calembourgs alternatifs

Some Addition

• 1 + 1 = 2
• docker cp -> (alt) marcel triche
• docker login -> marcel vos-papiers (de @brouberol)
• docker logout -> marcel dehors, marcel ouste

volume -> ouvrage, or better tome (tomme de savoie (on va pas en faire un frommage))

Une Correction

🙌

for daemon, the correct translation in french is not demon, devil (there is the same problem with hacker where thanks to french journalist is understood as black hat)

cf https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/daemon

From Latin daemon ‎(“genius, lar, guardian spirit”), from Ancient Greek δαίμων ‎(daímōn, “dispenser, god, protective spirit”).

Hence will be better marcel génie, (acknowledging french ingéniosité 🇫🇷 😁),
marcel esprit, (or marcel mauvais-esprit ^^)

Another alternative marcel gardien (et marcel goal or even marcel desailly
Or even marcel immortel to have academy française support

So no esclave, Libertée, Libertée Chérie!

marcel génie, esprit, mauvais-esprit, guardien,deseilly

N'est ce pas mieux? 😃

[brouberol]

@Biromain @AdrieanKhisbe these are amazing :) Care to send a PR to https://github.com/brouberol/marcel?

[brouberol]

@Biromain @AdrieanKhisbe these are amazing :) Care to send a PR to https://github.com/brouberol/marcel?

[tatic0]

@eaoden
I've had the pleasure of enjoying French administration. I'd really like them to have OSSouverain on their PCs.

[tatic0]

@eaoden
I've had the pleasure of enjoying French administration. I'd really like them to have OSSouverain on their PCs.

[tatic0]

@AdrieanKhisbe She's crazy, absolutely crazy, she uses non "souverain" free software for statistics stuff and wants to live in France.

[tatic0]

@AdrieanKhisbe She's crazy, absolutely crazy, she uses non "souverain" free software for statistics stuff and wants to live in France.

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@tatic0 haha. 😁

@brouberol: Will do ;), PR will hit your marcel dépot in the days to come. :)
(Demande de tirage, is such an ugly translation to me. something with aiguillage, ou raccordement, proposition de modification would be batter.)
😉

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@tatic0 haha. 😁

@brouberol: Will do ;), PR will hit your marcel dépot in the days to come. :)
(Demande de tirage, is such an ugly translation to me. something with aiguillage, ou raccordement, proposition de modification would be batter.)
😉

[eaoden]

(fr)

For docker logout, I'd suggest marcel gueule-de-bois.

It may be a bit political, but for docker cp I'd also suggest marcel front-républicain.

In the same republican spirit 🍷 I'd suggest to replace docker import with marcel wiko or marcel uranium.

I'd suggest to wrap docker info with marcel suivi-de-dossier or marcel allocs, and docker daemon with marcel proust (or, if you feel intellectual, marcel madeleine).

(en)

To explain a bit, gueule de bois means a hangover.

The Front Républicain is a coalition of the union for a popular movement (UMP) and socialist party (PS). As the national front (FN) is rising, the UMP copies on it to get its electors and the PS copies on the UMP to get electors of both. François Hollande, our President, is binded to the PS.

You probably know Wiko, a "French" brand made by Chinese people and whose phones are build in China. They make a lot of branding on the fact it's the first French brand sold in the world. It's not.

I suggested uranium because France imports uranium from South Africa and Australia to produce nuclear energy.

The enwrappements for docker info point to the French administration, which is globally a huge mess with enthusiastic newcomers becoming jaded and cynical because one person is enough to ruin someone's life.

For the record, and to emphase what @tatic0 ironically pointed out, Kouachi brothers came from a district where social assistants, people helping you to deal with the terrible French administration, were all leaving to go somewhere else.

But that's not pretty funny.

Last but definitely not the least, Marcel Proust is a French writer, and I don't know in foreign countries but here we've got the madeleine de Proust, globally a sensation, like a taste or a fragrance, which reminds you a moment in your life.

Thinking of him makes me hungry now by the way, because of King Marcel.

[eaoden]

(fr)

For docker logout, I'd suggest marcel gueule-de-bois.

It may be a bit political, but for docker cp I'd also suggest marcel front-républicain.

In the same republican spirit 🍷 I'd suggest to replace docker import with marcel wiko or marcel uranium.

I'd suggest to wrap docker info with marcel suivi-de-dossier or marcel allocs, and docker daemon with marcel proust (or, if you feel intellectual, marcel madeleine).

(en)

To explain a bit, gueule de bois means a hangover.

The Front Républicain is a coalition of the union for a popular movement (UMP) and socialist party (PS). As the national front (FN) is rising, the UMP copies on it to get its electors and the PS copies on the UMP to get electors of both. François Hollande, our President, is binded to the PS.

You probably know Wiko, a "French" brand made by Chinese people and whose phones are build in China. They make a lot of branding on the fact it's the first French brand sold in the world. It's not.

I suggested uranium because France imports uranium from South Africa and Australia to produce nuclear energy.

The enwrappements for docker info point to the French administration, which is globally a huge mess with enthusiastic newcomers becoming jaded and cynical because one person is enough to ruin someone's life.

For the record, and to emphase what @tatic0 ironically pointed out, Kouachi brothers came from a district where social assistants, people helping you to deal with the terrible French administration, were all leaving to go somewhere else.

But that's not pretty funny.

Last but definitely not the least, Marcel Proust is a French writer, and I don't know in foreign countries but here we've got the madeleine de Proust, globally a sensation, like a taste or a fragrance, which reminds you a moment in your life.

Thinking of him makes me hungry now by the way, because of King Marcel.

[Erowlin]

I work at MarcelCab, and we love the idea. Chauffe Marcel !

[Erowlin]

I work at MarcelCab, and we love the idea. Chauffe Marcel !

[LaPalice]

docker-logout : marcel-tu-l-aimes-ou-tu-le-quittes

[LaPalice]

docker-logout : marcel-tu-l-aimes-ou-tu-le-quittes

[AdrieanKhisbe]

Un quart d'heure avant sa mort, il était encore en vie -- Jacques II de Chabannes de @LaPalice

(in english: Quarter before it's death, he was still alive)

marcel tchao-boloss

[AdrieanKhisbe]

Un quart d'heure avant sa mort, il était encore en vie -- Jacques II de Chabannes de @LaPalice

(in english: Quarter before it's death, he was still alive)

marcel tchao-boloss

[LaPalice]

@AdrieanKhisbe

marcel a-plus-dans-le-bus

[LaPalice]

@AdrieanKhisbe

marcel a-plus-dans-le-bus

[AdrieanKhisbe]

marcel tchao-les-bitchs

I precise, the last word is with this acceptation: http://bitches.urbanup.com/987078, intended meaning

[AdrieanKhisbe]

marcel tchao-les-bitchs

I precise, the last word is with this acceptation: http://bitches.urbanup.com/987078, intended meaning

[zurbo]

I think the french academy will not support "tchao", "boloss" and "bitchs" we should find something else

[zurbo]

I think the french academy will not support "tchao", "boloss" and "bitchs" we should find something else

[eaoden]

I think marcel PlanB would be better for this.

The best thing would be to mail the Immortals. May I have a full list of commands and suggested wrappings so I can ask them what they would think about it ?

[eaoden]

I think marcel PlanB would be better for this.

The best thing would be to mail the Immortals. May I have a full list of commands and suggested wrappings so I can ask them what they would think about it ?

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@zurbo -> marcel osef marcel balek ^^

@eaoden Haha. We are too mortal to wait for a reaction. haha marcel methode-d

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@zurbo -> marcel osef marcel balek ^^

@eaoden Haha. We are too mortal to wait for a reaction. haha marcel methode-d

[zurbo]

NO it's very important that the french sovereign operating system respect the french language (like the new french AZERTY keyboard) 😄 🍷

Maybe we should speak in french too (rofl)

[zurbo]

NO it's very important that the french sovereign operating system respect the french language (like the new french AZERTY keyboard) 😄 🍷

Maybe we should speak in french too (rofl)

[eaoden]

If there is a debug option, I'd suggest to call it marcel la-rache. http://www.la-rache.com/.

[eaoden]

If there is a debug option, I'd suggest to call it marcel la-rache. http://www.la-rache.com/.

[eaoden]

But what about an easter egg that would be approved by the French academy ? That would be so meta

[eaoden]

But what about an easter egg that would be approved by the French academy ? That would be so meta

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@zurbo
French langage evolve, and is more diverse than the academy dictionary.
Academy is also more there to validate usages. si let's use watch french speaker from all horizon use

cf https://youtu.be/-Yk48TEGIao ;)

@eaoden, the power is in the meta (and that's the emacs/spacemacs user that talks ^^)

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@zurbo
French langage evolve, and is more diverse than the academy dictionary.
Academy is also more there to validate usages. si let's use watch french speaker from all horizon use

cf https://youtu.be/-Yk48TEGIao ;)

@eaoden, the power is in the meta (and that's the emacs/spacemacs user that talks ^^)

[h-a-t]

If I may shamelessly auto bump a paper about Docker, Marcel, French gov with some french words, I'd love your opinion on it, without giving the feeling of highjacking the topic, even if it is completely /b/ :) Kudos for challenging : https://medium.com/@H.A.T/building-bridges-0-1-a157da6ef4fa#.e1vkbq9v1

[h-a-t]

If I may shamelessly auto bump a paper about Docker, Marcel, French gov with some french words, I'd love your opinion on it, without giving the feeling of highjacking the topic, even if it is completely /b/ :) Kudos for challenging : https://medium.com/@H.A.T/building-bridges-0-1-a157da6ef4fa#.e1vkbq9v1

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@hi-t-ch, I had an overview of the artcle. (will read in more depth later)
Though I totally agree on french _“France has a long tradition of absurd, grotesque and self-mockery humor.” _, 🇫🇷 Charlie, CanardEnchainé, and many many humorist, columnist.

I disagree a bit with Should we really pinpoint how this "elite" is completely disconnected with (technical) reality? Nah, vaut mieux en rire.
Definitely some part of the elite is à la masse, but not all of it. And there is too much blind french bashing from the silicon valley and american. (wont make an frenglish pun).
This is the arbre qui cache la foret, (trees that conceal the forest).
Latest minister (cf Axelle Lemaire, Fleur Pellerin), which I defy you to prove they are totally disconnected ;)

Quand le sage désigne la lune, l'idiot regarde le doigt, et l'opposant se concentre sur ce doigt
When the sage points at the moon, the fool/oponent looks at his finger, and the opponent focus on the finder. 🌝

Some american position is absurd (some would say selfish, américano centré): they deny to others a right they feel is natural for them:
cf docker#19396 (comment)

[AdrieanKhisbe]

@hi-t-ch, I had an overview of the artcle. (will read in more depth later)
Though I totally agree on french _“France has a long tradition of absurd, grotesque and self-mockery humor.” _, 🇫🇷 Charlie, CanardEnchainé, and many many humorist, columnist.

I disagree a bit with Should we really pinpoint how this "elite" is completely disconnected with (technical) reality? Nah, vaut mieux en rire.
Definitely some part of the elite is à la masse, but not all of it. And there is too much blind french bashing from the silicon valley and american. (wont make an frenglish pun).
This is the arbre qui cache la foret, (trees that conceal the forest).
Latest minister (cf Axelle Lemaire, Fleur Pellerin), which I defy you to prove they are totally disconnected ;)

Quand le sage désigne la lune, l'idiot regarde le doigt, et l'opposant se concentre sur ce doigt
When the sage points at the moon, the fool/oponent looks at his finger, and the opponent focus on the finder. 🌝

Some american position is absurd (some would say selfish, américano centré): they deny to others a right they feel is natural for them:
cf docker#19396 (comment)

[h-a-t]

Kudos for this first comment 👍
You said it yourself, "This is the arbre qui cache la foret, (trees that conceal the forest)", as it is the first post of a "bigger scheme", that is "somehow" connected to the "online" elites :-) Totally agree about the absurd position of some, French do it better anyway \o/
Cheers,

[h-a-t]

Kudos for this first comment 👍
You said it yourself, "This is the arbre qui cache la foret, (trees that conceal the forest)", as it is the first post of a "bigger scheme", that is "somehow" connected to the "online" elites :-) Totally agree about the absurd position of some, French do it better anyway \o/
Cheers,

[ndeloof]

I expected this thread would be enough to demonstrate french folks creativity, but there's even more we can do now, as there a fresh new proposal to review French language spelling rules #ReformeOrthographe

So for sample, proposed translation for docker logincould become marcel vo-papié - doesn't this look cool ?

[ndeloof]

I expected this thread would be enough to demonstrate french folks creativity, but there's even more we can do now, as there a fresh new proposal to review French language spelling rules #ReformeOrthographe

So for sample, proposed translation for docker logincould become marcel vo-papié - doesn't this look cool ?

[eaoden]

@ndeloof This sounds glorious, and this mighty quest for a better spelling will remain being heard in the future generations. The children of my children will remember these glorious ages as the reborn of the greatness of France. 🇫🇷 🍷

We may give a snapshot of this to the Action Française as well. Vive la France, et vive le Roi !

[eaoden]

@ndeloof This sounds glorious, and this mighty quest for a better spelling will remain being heard in the future generations. The children of my children will remember these glorious ages as the reborn of the greatness of France. 🇫🇷 🍷

We may give a snapshot of this to the Action Française as well. Vive la France, et vive le Roi !

[LaPalice]

To stay with Action Française :
docker restart should be marcel le-roi-est-mort-vive-le-roi

[LaPalice]

To stay with Action Française :
docker restart should be marcel le-roi-est-mort-vive-le-roi

[zhelezov]

And marcel greve could be invoked with marcel a-l-aise. There's a nice ring to it, eh? The possibilities are countless and the future is bright, lol, thank you guys -- nice start of the day this thread!

[zhelezov]

And marcel greve could be invoked with marcel a-l-aise. There's a nice ring to it, eh? The possibilities are countless and the future is bright, lol, thank you guys -- nice start of the day this thread!

[Adrien-Luxey]

Thanks, guys, for this effective thinktank on the future of the glorious French Tech.
I just wanted to provide you with some existing French translations of tech words (which are possibly proposed randomly) : Bitoduc (Which is supposed to mean Pipeline, I think; it sure sounds like "Dick pipe".)

[Adrien-Luxey]

Thanks, guys, for this effective thinktank on the future of the glorious French Tech.
I just wanted to provide you with some existing French translations of tech words (which are possibly proposed randomly) : Bitoduc (Which is supposed to mean Pipeline, I think; it sure sounds like "Dick pipe".)

[eaoden]

Something just came to my mind about the French sovereign OS.

French academy, and usually any typography manual, recommend to put a dot at the end of abbreviations such as "etc.".

So we would end up with (assuming we would use ressources from Françafrique to install, say, gutenprint drivers) /etc./Françafrique/servers.list, wouldn't we ?

We may send an e-mail to the French academy about this as well. Who's in ?

[eaoden]

Something just came to my mind about the French sovereign OS.

French academy, and usually any typography manual, recommend to put a dot at the end of abbreviations such as "etc.".

So we would end up with (assuming we would use ressources from Françafrique to install, say, gutenprint drivers) /etc./Françafrique/servers.list, wouldn't we ?

We may send an e-mail to the French academy about this as well. Who's in ?

[thaJeztah]

Marcel has already infiltrated in the internal Docker Slack channel, posing as a "bot"

[thaJeztah]

Marcel has already infiltrated in the internal Docker Slack channel, posing as a "bot"

[crousti-bat]

The sovereign OS is just another trick our corrupt government actors are using to give millions to their supporting friends.
They already did that with the "sovereign clouds", giving 150 millions to companies that knew nothing about cloud computing. They are named Orange, SFR, Bull and Thales. They rejected known, working, independent cloud actors (like OVH).
Of course the guys who got money failed miserably and sold their cloud business to international corporations; our "sovereign clouds" are now owned by subsidiaries based in luxembourg among others.
And guess who was actively pushing the project ? Hint: he was a president, and got officially charged with illegal campaign funding (along with 3 other charges) a couple days ago.

They are going to do just the same with the "sovereign OS". Even the director of the national agency for computer system security (ANSSI) publicly said this thing is a nonsense ...

Isn't there a competent enough international journalist who could dig in there and expose these thieves ? French ones have been bought so we don't expect much from them, they can't talk about anything but the weather and petty crimes. We are getting tired of litterally giving tax money to these guys ...

[crousti-bat]

The sovereign OS is just another trick our corrupt government actors are using to give millions to their supporting friends.
They already did that with the "sovereign clouds", giving 150 millions to companies that knew nothing about cloud computing. They are named Orange, SFR, Bull and Thales. They rejected known, working, independent cloud actors (like OVH).
Of course the guys who got money failed miserably and sold their cloud business to international corporations; our "sovereign clouds" are now owned by subsidiaries based in luxembourg among others.
And guess who was actively pushing the project ? Hint: he was a president, and got officially charged with illegal campaign funding (along with 3 other charges) a couple days ago.

They are going to do just the same with the "sovereign OS". Even the director of the national agency for computer system security (ANSSI) publicly said this thing is a nonsense ...

Isn't there a competent enough international journalist who could dig in there and expose these thieves ? French ones have been bought so we don't expect much from them, they can't talk about anything but the weather and petty crimes. We are getting tired of litterally giving tax money to these guys ...

[ghost]

trouble-fête :-)

[ghost]

trouble-fête :-)

[DevankAgarwal]

I prefer watching videos instead. Could somebody convert this issue into a video, please?

[DevankAgarwal]

I prefer watching videos instead. Could somebody convert this issue into a video, please?

[ndeloof]

@DevankAgarwal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgDo1Lx7yQ ?

[ndeloof]

@DevankAgarwal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgDo1Lx7yQ ?

[Sylvain-Delafoy]

C'est bizarre que personne n'ai proposé marcel vitrine-magique pour docker import.

[Sylvain-Delafoy]

C'est bizarre que personne n'ai proposé marcel vitrine-magique pour docker import.

[calavera]

won't fix, sorry 🇪🇸

[calavera]

won't fix, sorry 🇪🇸

[icecrime]

(he's just jealous we're getting a sovereign OS and he doesn't)

[icecrime]

(he's just jealous we're getting a sovereign OS and he doesn't)