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ἔστηκεν in John 8.44 #30

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jtauber opened this issue Jun 21, 2015 · 3 comments
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ἔστηκεν in John 8.44 #30

jtauber opened this issue Jun 21, 2015 · 3 comments

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@jtauber jtauber commented Jun 21, 2015

We currently have:

040844 V- 3IAI-S-- ἔστηκεν⸃, ἔστηκεν ἔστηκε(ν) ἵστημι

but should it be perfect or should the lemma be changed to στήκω?

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@jtauber jtauber commented Jun 21, 2015

The Friberg AGNT gives the analysis of imperfect OR perfect but their ANLEX gives the lemma of the imperfect form (with the smooth accent) as στήκω.

Logos gives the analysis as imperfect OR perfect but chooses ἵστημι as the lemma.

BDAG seems to favour the perfect.

It seems that the choice of breathing by SBLGNT prefers the imperfect of στήκω over the perfect of ἵστημι.

Either way, it seems suboptimal to choose an imperfect analysis and ἵστημι at the same time.

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@alerque alerque commented Jun 22, 2015

should it be perfect

Of course. Why aim for less than perfection?

Oh…we're talking about grammar? Over and out…

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@seumasjeltzz seumasjeltzz commented Dec 4, 2019

I think this is almost certainly a perfect. στήκω forms as a back formation from ἵστημι derivatives are (a) uncommon, (b) mostly confined to imperfective imperatives, (c) late.

BDAG's judgment that it's perfect regardless of breathing seems to me reasonably grounds to stick with an analysis of perfect, and leave the lemma as is.

That's my take on it.

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