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Crowdsource all the things! #12

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IMSoP opened this Issue Oct 11, 2017 · 3 comments

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IMSoP commented Oct 11, 2017

This is a really great idea, but a hand-picked list of 61 one-to-one mappings isn't going to do much to dispel the feeling that Firefox 57 is decimating the Add-On ecosystem. This feels like a great prototype, but if it's going to be linked in official help pages it needs to be a lot more than that.

Firstly, there should be a big prominent link for "Know of an alternative we're missing? Add it here!" It should spam a designated inbox, or be a Google Spreadsheets form, or something. Even a properly labelled link to the "official" suggestions thread would be a start, though "register for yet another forum" isn't that encouraging.

Secondly, get rid of the three-column spreadsheet and put the list in a text file in this repo. Then people can make suggestions by Pull Request too. (There's no link to this repo on the page either, I had to reverse engineer the Github URL, so add that. And a README.)

Thirdly, if you're going to hand-vet the entries, a couple of minutes glancing at each one would seem sensible. You currently have no alternative listed for FireGestures, but have Foxy Gestures as an alternative to something else. The summary of that extension is "Mouse gestures for Firefox. A web extension alternative to FireGestures created by a long time FireGestures user."

Fourthly, on that note, you should be canvassing every author of a WebExtensions add-on for suggestions of legacy add-ons it could be a replacement for. Implement #9 and you won't be in the position of having to pick a favourite.

Finally, I'm not sure why this tool even exists, since addons.mozilla.org apparently built a feature for managing these alternatives already. That seems like a more natural home, although I've no idea if it's actually live, or if anyone ever loaded any data.

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A couple of addenda:

  • There are 60 items in the current list, not 61, I accidentally counted the header. I see roughly 15000 extensions on AMO listed as compatible with v56 and not v57, so that's about 0.4%
  • The AMO system will be linked from the "Disabled Extensions" tab in about:addons (it's there in current builds if you set extensions.legacy.enabled=false). As I expected, it doesn't have a suggestion for FireGestures either.
  • Here's yet another bit of duplicated effort: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/edit#gid=0 (Found via andymckay/arewewebextensionsyet.com#14) This has many more suggestions than the data used here, including three for FireGestures.

IMSoP commented Oct 12, 2017

A couple of addenda:

  • There are 60 items in the current list, not 61, I accidentally counted the header. I see roughly 15000 extensions on AMO listed as compatible with v56 and not v57, so that's about 0.4%
  • The AMO system will be linked from the "Disabled Extensions" tab in about:addons (it's there in current builds if you set extensions.legacy.enabled=false). As I expected, it doesn't have a suggestion for FireGestures either.
  • Here's yet another bit of duplicated effort: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/edit#gid=0 (Found via andymckay/arewewebextensionsyet.com#14) This has many more suggestions than the data used here, including three for FireGestures.
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Thanks for all the leg-work checking this stuff out! Alas, this tool is just a search interface to a set of recommendations made by the Firefox Add-ons team. There's an ongoing discussion thread where people can provide feedback and suggest new alternatives.

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Thanks for all the leg-work checking this stuff out! Alas, this tool is just a search interface to a set of recommendations made by the Firefox Add-ons team. There's an ongoing discussion thread where people can provide feedback and suggest new alternatives.

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Hi, I realise this isn't really your problem to solve, but I had hoped to convince you the problem was real, and would be better able to find who to call out to than I am.

This really should have been one of the first projects Mozilla kicked off when they decided that every single add-on was going to need to be rewritten. It seems like it's never been treated as a priority, as shown by this tool not even being integrated with the main addons.mozilla.org site, and that makes me really worried for the future of Firefox.

IMSoP commented Oct 26, 2017

Hi, I realise this isn't really your problem to solve, but I had hoped to convince you the problem was real, and would be better able to find who to call out to than I am.

This really should have been one of the first projects Mozilla kicked off when they decided that every single add-on was going to need to be rewritten. It seems like it's never been treated as a priority, as shown by this tool not even being integrated with the main addons.mozilla.org site, and that makes me really worried for the future of Firefox.

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