diff --git a/libmscore/slur.cpp b/libmscore/slur.cpp
index 5503b0da28e9e..14ecffbcd44ba 100644
--- a/libmscore/slur.cpp
+++ b/libmscore/slur.cpp
@@ -1434,7 +1434,7 @@ void Slur::layout()
             // case 3: middle segment
             else if (i != 0 && system != sPos.system2) {
                   segment->setSpannerSegmentType(SpannerSegmentType::MIDDLE);
-                  qreal x1 = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system) - _spatium;
+                  qreal x1 = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system);
                   qreal x2 = system->bbox().width();
                   qreal y  = system->staff(staffIdx())->y();
                   segment->layout(QPointF(x1, y), QPointF(x2, y));
@@ -1442,7 +1442,7 @@ void Slur::layout()
             // case 4: end segment
             else {
                   segment->setSpannerSegmentType(SpannerSegmentType::END);
-                  qreal x = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system) - _spatium;
+                  qreal x = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system);
                   segment->layout(QPointF(x, sPos.p2.y()), sPos.p2);
                   }
             if (system == sPos.system2)
@@ -1454,6 +1454,7 @@ void Slur::layout()
 //---------------------------------------------------------
 //   firstNoteRestSegmentX
 //    in System() coordinates
+//    returns the position just after the last non-chordrest segment
 //---------------------------------------------------------
 
 qreal SlurTie::firstNoteRestSegmentX(System* system)
@@ -1463,7 +1464,23 @@ qreal SlurTie::firstNoteRestSegmentX(System* system)
                   const Measure* measure = static_cast<const Measure*>(mb);
                   for (const Segment* seg = measure->first(); seg; seg = seg->next()) {
                         if (seg->segmentType() == Segment::Type::ChordRest) {
-                              return seg->pos().x() + seg->measure()->pos().x();
+                              // first CR found; back up to previous segment
+                              seg = seg->prev();
+                              if (seg) {
+                                    // find maximum width
+                                    qreal width = 0.0;
+                                    int n = score()->nstaves();
+                                    for (int i = 0; i < n; ++i) {
+                                          if (!system->staff(i)->show())
+                                                continue;
+                                          Element* e = seg->element(i * VOICES);
+                                          if (e)
+                                                width = qMax(width, e->width());
+                                          }
+                                    return seg->measure()->pos().x() + seg->pos().x() + width;
+                                    }
+                              else
+                                    return 0.0;
                               }
                         }
                   }
diff --git a/libmscore/tie.cpp b/libmscore/tie.cpp
index ca6fb302b3a5b..656452dec0bc7 100644
--- a/libmscore/tie.cpp
+++ b/libmscore/tie.cpp
@@ -314,8 +314,6 @@ void Tie::calculateDirection()
 
 void Tie::layout()
       {
-      qreal _spatium = spatium();
-
       //
       //    show short bow
       //
@@ -405,7 +403,7 @@ void Tie::layout()
                   }
             // case 4: end segment
             else {
-                  qreal x = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system) - 2 * _spatium;
+                  qreal x = firstNoteRestSegmentX(system);
 
                   segment->layout(QPointF(x, sPos.p2.y()), sPos.p2);
                   segment->setSpannerSegmentType(SpannerSegmentType::END);
diff --git a/vtest/gen b/vtest/gen
index fecc3043b0adf..58a40cb7dfb46 100755
--- a/vtest/gen
+++ b/vtest/gen
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ else
        chord-layout-11 chord-layout-12 chord-layout-13 chord-layout-14 cross-1\
        accidental-1 accidental-2 accidental-3 accidental-4 accidental-5\
        accidental-6 accidental-7 accidental-8 accidental-9\
-       tie-1 tie-2 grace-1 grace-2 grace-3 harmony-1 harmony-2 harmony-3 harmony-4 beams-1 beams-2\
+       tie-1 tie-2 tie-3 grace-1 grace-2 grace-3 harmony-1 harmony-2 harmony-3 harmony-4 beams-1 beams-2\
        user-offset-1 user-offset-2 chord-space-1 tablature-1 image-1\
        lyrics-1 lyrics-2 lyrics-3 voice-1"
 fi
diff --git a/vtest/gen.bat b/vtest/gen.bat
index 24918bd5be102..02b9cd5cdee1c 100644
--- a/vtest/gen.bat
+++ b/vtest/gen.bat
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ set SRC=mmrest-1,bravura-mmrest,gonville-mmrest,mmrest-2,mmrest-4,mmrest-5,mmres
  chord-layout-11,chord-layout-12,chord-layout-13,chord-layout-14,cross-1, ^
  accidental-1,accidental-2,accidental-3,accidental-4,accidental-5, ^
  accidental-6,accidental-7,accidental-8,accidental-9, ^
- tie-1,tie-2,grace-1,grace-2,grace-3,harmony-1,harmony-2,harmony-3,harmony-4,beams-1,beams-2, ^
+ tie-1,tie-2,tie-3,grace-1,grace-2,grace-3,harmony-1,harmony-2,harmony-3,harmony-4,beams-1,beams-2, ^
  user-offset-1,user-offset-2,chord-space-1,tablature-1,image-1, ^
  lyrics-1,lyrics-2,lyrics-3,voice-1
 
diff --git a/vtest/tie-3-ref.png b/vtest/tie-3-ref.png
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diff --git a/vtest/tie-3.mscz b/vtest/tie-3.mscz
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