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Add deinflector for imperative ろ/base4 form #792

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terrywallwork opened this Issue Aug 25, 2017 · 7 comments

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terrywallwork commented Aug 25, 2017

I came across the verb 見ろ which is apparently the imperative form of 見る. But 見ろ inflection form is not listed in AEDict inflection list.

Should it be added? Or is there a reason it is not listed?

Thank-you, I hope this is not a silly question.

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mvysny commented Aug 26, 2017

I believe that the imperative version is base 5 which is miyou according to http://ww8.tiki.ne.jp/~tmath/language/verbs.htm#48 - can you please double check that?

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terrywallwork commented Aug 26, 2017

Hi Again,

Did some searching and the ろ ending for verbs that would normally end in る seems to be frequent:

See the following dictionary entries with example sentences:

http://ejje.weblio.jp/sentence/content/%E9%A3%9F%E3%81%B9%E3%82%8D
http://ejje.weblio.jp/sentence/content/%E8%A6%8B%E3%82%8D
http://ejje.weblio.jp/sentence/content/%E8%B5%B0%E3%82%8D

My Japanese is not good enough to be sure but it seems like the ろ ending is the (plain/impolite) command/imperative form.

Does that mean that よう form is equivalent?

Do you think it would be worth me trying to contact Tim Sensei to ask?

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terrywallwork commented Aug 26, 2017

Update asked on Hinative and got this responce:

https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/4533417

Apparently verb imperative forms are what they are here is the link to the site he pointed me to:

http://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/japanese-commands/

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mvysny commented Sep 15, 2017

Thanks, it definitely seems legit: http://ww8.tiki.ne.jp/~tmath/language/verbs.htm#44
Unfortunately, deinflecting Base4 for godan verbs produces lots of false positives (e.g. mite -> mitu even though it's 見ru ichidan, yet the deinflector is stupid and doesn't know that), so for now I will implement only the deinflector for ichidan -ro verbs.

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mvysny commented Sep 15, 2017

Well, I made the impossible possible and implemented a rudimentary deinflector for Base4. Enjoy ;)

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mvysny commented Sep 15, 2017

Implemented in Aedict 3.42

@mvysny mvysny changed the title Should ろ imperative verb inflection form be added? Add deinflector for imperative ろ/base4 form Sep 15, 2017

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terrywallwork commented Sep 15, 2017

Excellent :)

Thankyou doer of the impossible :)

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