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| // General Information about an assembly is controlled through the following | ||
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Aug 5, 2015
All I did was say my opinion. If you ever have (or do have children) and one of them has a special need and comes home to you crying that the other kids call you a retard, you will get this terrible sinking black hole feeling inside you, because it's something you can't fix. You just hug your boy and tell him him, "NO YOU ARE NOT! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE JERKS!".
You're right. I would be offended by that.
If you are ever in that situation, I GUARANTEE you will switch sides, unless you were born without a single ounce of love and compassion.
However, this has absolutely nothing to do with GitHUB decision. Using the word jokingly (like the "for dummies" series) is vastly different than using the word directly to refer to a mentally challenged person.
those impressionable youngsters are gonna take that to school, and the bullying begins. I fucking hate bullies. They hurt my son and make him cry.
You are stretching that extremely far
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You're right. I would be offended by that.
However, this has absolutely nothing to do with GitHUB decision. Using the word jokingly (like the "for dummies" series) is vastly different than using the word directly to refer to a mentally challenged person.
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If you are ever in that situation, I GUARANTEE you will switch sides, unless you were born without a single ounce of love and compassion.
I understand you, I've been in a similar position. But it just takes a bit of maturity to understand that the word "retard" is being used with the same sense as i.e. "dummy". They are not trying to make fun of actual retarded people, so why should they get offended by that?
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I understand you, I've been in a similar position. But it just takes a bit of maturity to understand that the word "retard" is being used with the same sense as i.e. "dummy". They are not trying to make fun of actual retarded people, so why should they get offended by that? |
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You sound like a small child crying and stomping his feet. |
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@daveryder: If you are ever in that situation, I GUARANTEE you will switch sides, unless you were born without a single ounce of love and compassion.
Context matters. If such an event drives you to take issue with every use of the word, regardless of context, then that speaks of your own personal bias - not the inappropriateness of others. Such bias is understandable, but not a good advisor for rational decisionmaking.
The situation you sketched really has nothing to do with this incident, and there's no plausible evidence that insulting use of a word is encouraged by it being used in a facetious manner - quite the opposite, in fact. The facetious use is derived from the insulting use, and really only serves to weaken the effectiveness of it as an insult (as the word is not taken seriously anymore).
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Context matters. If such an event drives you to take issue with every use of the word, regardless of context, then that speaks of your own personal bias - not the inappropriateness of others. Such bias is understandable, but not a good advisor for rational decisionmaking. The situation you sketched really has nothing to do with this incident, and there's no plausible evidence that insulting use of a word is encouraged by it being used in a facetious manner - quite the opposite, in fact. The facetious use is derived from the insulting use, and really only serves to weaken the effectiveness of it as an insult (as the word is not taken seriously anymore). |
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LOL @daveryder looks like you don't understand what the issue is and basically your whole post is about completely different issues. And honestly I don't agree with your idea.
If you ever have (or do have children) and one of them has a special need and comes home to you crying that the other kids call you a retard, you will get this terrible sinking black hole feeling inside you, because it's something you can't fix. You just hug your boy and tell him him, "NO YOU ARE NOT! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE JERKS!".
How's that relevant? How those other kids are related to a website? Also by the way IMO that's a bad parenting and a stupid answer as you would be lying to your own retarded kid by saying he's not retard when he actually is. Better answer would be to tell him to ignore it. Don't you realize that you're overprotective and you will never be able to always help him anyway? And it doesn't matter what word is used as there are millions of ways to insult and make someone offended.
If you are ever in that situation, I GUARANTEE you will switch sides, unless you were born without a single ounce of love and compassion.
And, what if I am? What you gonna do? Maybe I don't have any love, compassion, empathy, etc.
If making a post on a community I don't even use can make even one individual think to themselves "maybe there is a better, or nicer way of getting my message across, one that doesn't make innocent children miserable" then I feel I've possibly done some good in this life.
If only that would be so easy, but you can keep trying all you want, I don't care and I really don't agree with that idea that some words on a website would make some child miserable.
if a family's "cool uncle hacker" throws around words like retard and nigger, and thinks "intelligent" people are better than "dumb" people, those impressionable youngsters are gonna take that to school, and the bullying begins.
Jeez, that's a bad argument, do you really believe that creates bullying? And basically by your logic you're saying websites should remove "bad" words and somehow that will change that uncle to stop using those words, WTF?
I fucking hate bullies. They hurt my son and make him cry.
Do you know that kids also cry when they don't get candy they want and will scream all over the shop? It really sounds like you're not a good parent and that you'll try to change world just to indulge your kids on their whim. People like you are reason why there's such spoiled kids who can't do anything themselves.
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LOL @daveryder looks like you don't understand what the issue is and basically your whole post is about completely different issues. And honestly I don't agree with your idea.
How's that relevant? How those other kids are related to a website? Also by the way IMO that's a bad parenting and a stupid answer as you would be lying to your own retarded kid by saying he's not retard when he actually is. Better answer would be to tell him to ignore it. Don't you realize that you're overprotective and you will never be able to always help him anyway? And it doesn't matter what word is used as there are millions of ways to insult and make someone offended.
And, what if I am? What you gonna do? Maybe I don't have any love, compassion, empathy, etc.
If only that would be so easy, but you can keep trying all you want, I don't care and I really don't agree with that idea that some words on a website would make some child miserable.
Jeez, that's a bad argument, do you really believe that creates bullying? And basically by your logic you're saying websites should remove "bad" words and somehow that will change that uncle to stop using those words, WTF?
Do you know that kids also cry when they don't get candy they want and will scream all over the shop? It really sounds like you're not a good parent and that you'll try to change world just to indulge your kids on their whim. People like you are reason why there's such spoiled kids who can't do anything themselves. |
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Perhaps instead of worrying about individual words, Github should have just made it easy to ignore/block/shadow-ban people.
Seems like a far more likely solution to the "mean people problem." Meanwhile, you have @krainboltgreene apparently leading the parade, holding the banner of peace and goodwill.
Wait, no, he's an insipid troll. Ah... well, that is what always seems to happen. Every. Time.
Kudos!
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Perhaps instead of worrying about individual words, Github should have just made it easy to ignore/block/shadow-ban people. Seems like a far more likely solution to the "mean people problem." Meanwhile, you have @krainboltgreene apparently leading the parade, holding the banner of peace and goodwill. Wait, no, he's an insipid troll. Ah... well, that is what always seems to happen. Every. Time. Kudos! |
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@arthurkay I think @krainboltgreene is more than welcome here. As much as I do not agree with his opinion on twitter, it is just his own opinion on twitter, and it is not a reason to shut him up. Just because you don't agree with his opinion. Besides, if you do not agree with his opinion, and think it is morally incorrect, why don't you be nice and explain to him constructively why his opinion is wrong. Don't forget, gay/transgender community has not been listened too, and suppressed just because everyone thought that this people has no right to talk.
So don't make the same mistake. Constructive argument based on fact. Not child-bitching.
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@arthurkay I think @krainboltgreene is more than welcome here. As much as I do not agree with his opinion on twitter, it is just his own opinion on twitter, and it is not a reason to shut him up. Just because you don't agree with his opinion. Besides, if you do not agree with his opinion, and think it is morally incorrect, why don't you be nice and explain to him constructively why his opinion is wrong. Don't forget, gay/transgender community has not been listened too, and suppressed just because everyone thought that this people has no right to talk. |
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why don't you be nice and explain to him constructively why his opinion is wrong.
what if he does not care? can you call him names then?
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what if he does not care? can you call him names then? |
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@herrniemand: I think @krainboltgreene is more than welcome here. As much as I do not agree with his opinion on twitter, it is just his own opinion on twitter, and it is not a reason to shut him up. Just because you don't agree with his opinion. Besides, if you do not agree with his opinion, and think it is morally incorrect, why don't you be nice and explain to him constructively why his opinion is wrong.
A number of people have tried that throughout the course of this thread (ctrl+F 'krainboltgreene'), and he has consistently ignored such explanations, and blindly repeated his statements.
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A number of people have tried that throughout the course of this thread (ctrl+F 'krainboltgreene'), and he has consistently ignored such explanations, and blindly repeated his statements. |
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@makc @joepie91 Then lets buy our self a lolly and give up. Life tends to fix things like this, and I am good example. I never was anti-transgender, but I did offended once some with a bad joke, and I did learn the consequences. But nobody kicked me, and so it is apply to @krainboltgreene. If we want to be effective as developer community we need to be constructive to our decisions in development, and communication. Any bulling within our community should be suppressed, but not the disagreement in opinions. And if we will start to bitch around about "Oh he said that, and he said that" then we are missing the point. If @krainboltgreene will abuse someone directly, then action should be taken. Otherwise it his own opinion.
P.S. I don't like onion, so it is my opinion, and I am not forcing it on someone.
Another thing I found is that people tend to try change people opinion about something by force rather then reasoning, like
- "If you are not Christian you will burn in hell."
- "If you are not Muslim you should be dead."
- "If you have bad opinion about gay/transgender you are a homophobic and should not maintain this project."
So I think @krainboltgreene have exactly same right as anyone in this community, and saying him to leave the thread is just childish.
I am not defending or supporting anyone. I am stating that those become prejudiced to the ones who are not share their opinion, even if it is morally incorrect by their opinion, are not better then the ones who might have that wrong opinion.
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@makc @joepie91 Then lets buy our self a lolly and give up. Life tends to fix things like this, and I am good example. I never was anti-transgender, but I did offended once some with a bad joke, and I did learn the consequences. But nobody kicked me, and so it is apply to @krainboltgreene. If we want to be effective as developer community we need to be constructive to our decisions in development, and communication. Any bulling within our community should be suppressed, but not the disagreement in opinions. And if we will start to bitch around about "Oh he said that, and he said that" then we are missing the point. If @krainboltgreene will abuse someone directly, then action should be taken. Otherwise it his own opinion. Another thing I found is that people tend to try change people opinion about something by force rather then reasoning, like
So I think @krainboltgreene have exactly same right as anyone in this community, and saying him to leave the thread is just childish. |
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@herrniemand you are not consistent,
If @krainboltgreene will abuse someone directly, then action should be taken.
why? are you the police? if somebody abuses someone, but makes good security hole fix to your project, would you not merge his fix?
maybe you mean indirect action, such as reporting the abuse. then it's fine, and if by deleting his account they delete his contribution too, this is unfortunate, but at least you are not the one to blame for it.
Otherwise it his own opinion.
oh please. other people may actually listen to him and act. and you will be like "oh he did not put jews in the oven, he only said he thinks we need to"?
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@herrniemand you are not consistent,
why? are you the police? if somebody abuses someone, but makes good security hole fix to your project, would you not merge his fix? maybe you mean indirect action, such as reporting the abuse. then it's fine, and if by deleting his account they delete his contribution too, this is unfortunate, but at least you are not the one to blame for it.
oh please. other people may actually listen to him and act. and you will be like "oh he did not put jews in the oven, he only said he thinks we need to"? |
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@makc by the action I mean action about the abuse. Deleting account does not help anyone. And I meant the community, the project maintainers, not me.
Now about opinion. It is his own opinion. You are free to criticise it. But "kick him out of maintainers because he writes on twitter something homophobic/antitransgender" is sound exactly the same to as "Jews execution(May theirs souls find their peace) during WW2" and "Stalin political repressions". Remember when crowd burned Scientists? Well lets not burn anyone, and just teach people to respect each other, rather then bitching around.
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@makc by the action I mean action about the abuse. Deleting account does not help anyone. And I meant the community, the project maintainers, not me. Now about opinion. It is his own opinion. You are free to criticise it. But "kick him out of maintainers because he writes on twitter something homophobic/antitransgender" is sound exactly the same to as "Jews execution(May theirs souls find their peace) during WW2" and "Stalin political repressions". Remember when crowd burned Scientists? Well lets not burn anyone, and just teach people to respect each other, rather then bitching around. |
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@herrniemand I feel like your comments should be directed primarily at @krainboltgreene, not at those criticizing him.
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@herrniemand I feel like your comments should be directed primarily at @krainboltgreene, not at those criticizing him. |
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@joepie91 my comments are directed to the community as whole. We are so concerned about what people say, rather they do and what they can do, that we are simply happy to remove developer because his opinion is wrong. We stopped being able to accept criticism from others, and we are happy to use rules that were made for good, for the removing people that are offending us.
As I said before: I do not agree with @krainboltgreene opinion. But I am neither agree with "Piss off Ghazi, you're not welcome here.". If you think that you are better then @krainboltgreene, then maybe you should act like that.
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@joepie91 my comments are directed to the community as whole. We are so concerned about what people say, rather they do and what they can do, that we are simply happy to remove developer because his opinion is wrong. We stopped being able to accept criticism from others, and we are happy to use rules that were made for good, for the removing people that are offending us. As I said before: I do not agree with @krainboltgreene opinion. But I am neither agree with "Piss off Ghazi, you're not welcome here.". If you think that you are better then @krainboltgreene, then maybe you should act like that. |
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@herrniemand I'm not arguing that @krainboltgreene should be removed. My point is that he started out with the exclusionary "go away" behaviour (repeatedly), and others have simply been dishing out the same in return.
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@herrniemand I'm not arguing that @krainboltgreene should be removed. My point is that he started out with the exclusionary "go away" behaviour (repeatedly), and others have simply been dishing out the same in return. |
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@joepie91 yea, I know.
P.S. Using my right to criticize:
@krainboltgreene stop behaving like a fucking dick.
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@joepie91 yea, I know. |
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@joepie91 I guess I just generally went out about the fact that people want other people to be gone and used @krainboltgreene as example.
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@joepie91 I guess I just generally went out about the fact that people want other people to be gone and used @krainboltgreene as example. |
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why? are you the police? if somebody abuses someone, but makes good
security hole fix to your, would you not merge his fix?
I'll answer this one directly since I've had to do this a few times: No.
You are not the only developer in the entire world who can fix that
problem. There are enough not-assholes to ignore the "contributions" from
the assholes. This bullshit scenario also (unsurprisingly) ignores the
_cost_ of having that asshole around, namely driving off good people.
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but "kick him out of maintainers because he writes on twitter something
homophobic/antitransgender" is sound exactly the same to as "Jews
execution(May theirs souls find their peace) during WW2" and "Stalin
political repressions".
Holy shit are you serious? Like, why would you ever write this in a public
place? No one should consider this a sane comparison. _No one_.
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> why? are you the police? if somebody abuses someone, but makes good
> security hole fix to your, would you not merge his fix?
I'll answer this one directly since I've had to do this a few times: No.
You are not the only developer in the entire world who can fix that
problem. There are enough not-assholes to ignore the "contributions" from
the assholes. This bullshit scenario also (unsurprisingly) ignores the
_cost_ of having that asshole around, namely driving off good people.
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@krainboltgreene well. I guess it was not he most nice comparison. But it was equally bad reply as "oh he did not put jews in the oven, he only said he thinks we need to". From another view point it is conceptually the same. You trying to get rid of "morally incompatible people". It is physical in dictature, or verbally on github.
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@krainboltgreene well. I guess it was not he most nice comparison. But it was equally bad reply as "oh he did not put jews in the oven, he only said he thinks we need to". From another view point it is conceptually the same. You trying to get rid of "morally incompatible people". It is physical in dictature, or verbally on github. |
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not the only developer in the entire world who can fix that problem
yeah but the fix is there, and you opt to punish your software users for the sins of the contributer. this is retarded.
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@herrniemand read few posts above. in that somewhat imaginary scenario users are punished by having to run the software with security hole unpatched for some extra time because maintainer dislikes the contributor.
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@herrniemand read few posts above. in that somewhat imaginary scenario users are punished by having to run the software with security hole unpatched for some extra time because maintainer dislikes the contributor. |
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Seriously, accepting contributions from bad, in your opinion, people is not the big deal. If you could use nazi rocket scientists to get to the moon, would you? If you could get blood transfusion from serial killer to save your own life, would you? Hell, you have no problem picking up the loot from your enemies in the video games. The examples are countless. But no, the software development is completely different business.
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Seriously, accepting contributions from bad, in your opinion, people is not the big deal. If you could use nazi rocket scientists to get to the moon, would you? If you could get blood transfusion from serial killer to save your own life, would you? Hell, you have no problem picking up the loot from your enemies in the video games. The examples are countless. But no, the software development is completely different business. |
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Hell, you have no problem picking up the loot from your enemies in the video games.
Nailed it.
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I think having you people on github is punishing to users.
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I have no words to tell how much I hate these SJWs and other "thought/morale police" and they're infesting everything, Reddit, GitHub, etc, I guess it's just matter of time till only way for sane people will be websites on Tor hidden services.
If code is good, I will accept commits from mass murders, ISIS, rapists, serial killers whatever, I don't care, it's irrelevant to the code.
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If code is good, I will accept commits from mass murders, ISIS, rapists, serial killers whatever, I don't care, it's irrelevant to the code.
maybe not fro NSA, though. who knows, they might be planting back doors there.
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@krainboltgreene what ethics? I don't see there anything unethical, code is code and if it solves a problem it doesn't matter who wrote it.
maybe not fro NSA, though. who knows, they might be planting back doors there.
@makc how do you know that contributor who sent you a PR isn't from NSA? and do you think others like China wouldn't want backdoors too?
You can't know who is that contributor and what actual intentions he have so there's no point of looking at that, but need to carefully inspect patch and always learn new things so you would notice anything fishy ;)
Anyway I think I'll better stop posting here.
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@krainboltgreene what ethics? I don't see there anything unethical, code is code and if it solves a problem it doesn't matter who wrote it.
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Yeah, go ahead and explain to me how it's ethical to (theoretically) work
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You are not working with ISIS by merging some patches into your project, even if those patches are written by ISIS, because the code is supposedly under a FOSS license and has no owner. Whoever wrote the patches, it has the same effect on your project.
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Yeah, go ahead and explain to me how it's ethical to (theoretically) work with ISIS. Pleeeeeeease.
@krainboltgreene okay, but only this time and I know you're such a troll.
I mentioned several groups like mass murders, etc. but you're only interested in ISIS? Nazis killed more people and I would accept their commits too but all you care is ISIS this, ISIS that.
Okay so do you know that doctors/physicians are obligated to abide by Declaration of Geneva (like Hippocratic Oath) and there's a point
- I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
So they are obligated to help everyone, even ISIS. If a member of ISIS is about to die in their hospital they'll do whatever they can to save him. And this in fact is ethical, while not saving would be unethical.
You're saying I should discriminate people (eg. like ISIS) but I won't discriminate anyone, same as a doctor wouldn't discriminate anyone.
Also it's not working with ISIS, they would be working for me by contributing to my project and adding useful features who would be used and appreciated by users who would find them very useful.
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@krainboltgreene okay, but only this time and I know you're such a troll. I mentioned several groups like mass murders, etc. but you're only interested in ISIS? Nazis killed more people and I would accept their commits too but all you care is ISIS this, ISIS that. Okay so do you know that doctors/physicians are obligated to abide by Declaration of Geneva (like Hippocratic Oath) and there's a point
So they are obligated to help everyone, even ISIS. If a member of ISIS is about to die in their hospital they'll do whatever they can to save him. And this in fact is ethical, while not saving would be unethical. You're saying I should discriminate people (eg. like ISIS) but I won't discriminate anyone, same as a doctor wouldn't discriminate anyone. |
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@krainboltgreene Your trolling strategy needs some refinement. Try actually making arguments from time to time instead of repeating ad-hominem, vague statements and insults.
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Fingers in your ears "lalalalala" |
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Don't ask github to be cool about it. As someone who's had a fever in the past 6 months, being asked if I'm "cool" with something makes me feel personally attacked.
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Don't ask github to be cool about it. As someone who's had a fever in the past 6 months, being asked if I'm "cool" with something makes me feel personally attacked. |
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I like how you literally just keep posting rants without responding to anyone, for example @j-pb who says he has an actual disability, I'll quote if for you.
@krainboltgreene I don't get your position. What changes for you if the repos of people you don't like are on github or on a different hoster? You don't see them in any case.
Besides, please don't act as if you were some kind of representative of anything. You are certainly not a representative of people that face the same disabilities as me and @g7823564 because you don't have a neurodegenerative disease. You're not a representative of github.
You're at best alienating people from the very real issues people with disability face, so please just stop, or be civil.
Every response you've made is the equivalent of, "lalalalalalalala i'm not listening stop having different opinions that me." It's pathetic.
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I like how you literally just keep posting rants without responding to anyone, for example @j-pb who says he has an actual disability, I'll quote if for you.
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Rick: Cute. Your sister's boss gave me a microscope that would have made me retarded.
Morty: Ooo, oh boy Rick, I-I-I don't think you're allowed to say that word. Ya know?
Rick: Uh Morty, I'm not disparaging the differently abled. I'm stating the fact that if I had used this microscope it would have made me mentally retarded.
Morty: Ok but yeah, I don't think it's about logic, Rick. I-I think the word has just become a symbolic issue for powerful groups that feel like they're doing the right thing.
Rick: Well that's retarded.
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^ continued.. |
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Suis-je déjà en retard pour cette discussion? |
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@lukaseder Oui! *) |
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Post-scriptum: Ban est en attente pour vous ... ... et tous les francophones ....
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Post-scriptum: Ban est en attente pour vous ... ... et tous les francophones .... |
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Ici gît donc le bon sens |
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@lukaseder Absurde je ne vois que! |
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That face when you find out Gitlab also has a code of conduct (an even better one than Github's TODO choice): https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
Hahahaha. Sucks to be assholes.
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That face when you find out Gitlab also has a code of conduct (an even better one than Github's TODO choice): https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md Hahahaha. Sucks to be assholes. |
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That code of conduct has nothing to do with self-hosted gitlab instances.
Edit: it's also not retarded, as far as I can see.
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That code of conduct has nothing to do with self-hosted gitlab instances. Edit: it's also not retarded, as far as I can see. |
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"Sucks to be assholes."
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@krainboltgreene You know what the real burning question on everyone's mind is? Are including in a terms of service any discriminatory terms that limit the ability of consumers to enter the market an abuse of Market Power, which is illegal in some jurisdictions? Github is in fact not allowed to reserve the right to "refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time" under the law. For instance, under the Civil Rights Act it may not refuse to host repos on the basis of race, religion, age, sex, etc. This is far from "for any reason". Gitlab is much better in this respect than the laughable Code of Conduct that Github endorses.
And speaking of the Civil Rights Act, "Webm for retards" works rather nice with the principle of affirmative action. Ergo, taking down the repo was actually discriminating against the mentally disabled rather than helping them because its use enables awareness of the disabled which in fact was mentioned earlier in the thread. Therefore no law is broken by allowing the use of "retard" in this case.
Now as far as removing content based on the grounds of harassing, insulting behaviour: it is best left for a court to decide if a particular piece of content constitutes harassing or insulting behaviour, because hosting something despite setting yourself up for having a policy of taking said content down exposes Github to the liability of failing to remove content wrt the law should someone die for instance having to explain to a committee why didn't you put the proverbial fire out sooner since you've done so with other repos. Therefore operating under the common carrier and public space provisions of the law and going the way of "the best code of conduct is no code of conduct" (aka less is more) route would have been much safer than Github's current practice of indiscriminate takedowns and get this is actually closer to other parts of its terms of service such as "You shall defend GitHub against any claim, demand, suit or proceeding made or brought against GitHub by a third-party alleging that Your Content, or Your use of the Service in violation of this Agreement" which place the burden on users rather than Github as being responsible for content. But of course since Github now wants to do the opposite of the weightier legal parts of its terms of service by placing more weight on the "General Conditions" section than the "Content Ownership" section, then we the users are not going to be the only ones responsible for anything that happens which is likely not what Github would want.
Overall this trend of censorship in the public space by private corporations is rather dumb.
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@krainboltgreene You know what the real burning question on everyone's mind is? Are including in a terms of service any discriminatory terms that limit the ability of consumers to enter the market an abuse of Market Power, which is illegal in some jurisdictions? Github is in fact not allowed to reserve the right to "refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time" under the law. For instance, under the Civil Rights Act it may not refuse to host repos on the basis of race, religion, age, sex, etc. This is far from "for any reason". Gitlab is much better in this respect than the laughable Code of Conduct that Github endorses. And speaking of the Civil Rights Act, "Webm for retards" works rather nice with the principle of affirmative action. Ergo, taking down the repo was actually discriminating against the mentally disabled rather than helping them because its use enables awareness of the disabled which in fact was mentioned earlier in the thread. Therefore no law is broken by allowing the use of "retard" in this case. Now as far as removing content based on the grounds of harassing, insulting behaviour: it is best left for a court to decide if a particular piece of content constitutes harassing or insulting behaviour, because hosting something despite setting yourself up for having a policy of taking said content down exposes Github to the liability of failing to remove content wrt the law should someone die for instance having to explain to a committee why didn't you put the proverbial fire out sooner since you've done so with other repos. Therefore operating under the common carrier and public space provisions of the law and going the way of "the best code of conduct is no code of conduct" (aka less is more) route would have been much safer than Github's current practice of indiscriminate takedowns and get this is actually closer to other parts of its terms of service such as "You shall defend GitHub against any claim, demand, suit or proceeding made or brought against GitHub by a third-party alleging that Your Content, or Your use of the Service in violation of this Agreement" which place the burden on users rather than Github as being responsible for content. But of course since Github now wants to do the opposite of the weightier legal parts of its terms of service by placing more weight on the "General Conditions" section than the "Content Ownership" section, then we the users are not going to be the only ones responsible for anything that happens which is likely not what Github would want. Overall this trend of censorship in the public space by private corporations is rather dumb. |
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Gitlabs coc doesn't have a section about how "reverse -ism" don't exist (aka "I'm a racist and/or sexist, but I don't want to be called a racist/sexist so I redefine words), and githubs to-be coc hopefully won't either: https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/issues/84
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@krainboltgreene You don't get to sit on your moral high horse yelling "ethics" and simultaneously call people "assholes" that disagree with you. Perhaps you should spend some time attempting to come to a consistent and reasonable position.
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@krainboltgreene You don't get to sit on your moral high horse yelling "ethics" and simultaneously call people "assholes" that disagree with you. Perhaps you should spend some time attempting to come to a consistent and reasonable position. |
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Everyone, let's settle the debate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2mVGE63YU
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Everyone, let's settle the debate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2mVGE63YU |
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Hey @github, how about censoring all repos that show up at http://www.commitlogsfromlastnight.com/ ?
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Hey @github, how about censoring all repos that show up at http://www.commitlogsfromlastnight.com/ ? |
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This thread reads like 4chan. |
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Wow guys, way to necro a thread. |
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I wonder if there's any commit with more comments than this one. |
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It's 4chan that reads like this thread! |
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@jmendeth: I wonder if there's any commit with more comments than this one.
Oh yes. Yes, there is.
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Oh yes. Yes, there is. |
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@joepie91 Oh. Not sure if feeling jealous or relieved right now. |
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@jmendeth Well, to be fair, that one destroyed entire systems. |
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Disgusting github, absolutely disgusting. |
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Not even worth thinking about people. It's just a word dammit.
Reminds me of this intelligent Kids in the Hall skit.
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Not even worth thinking about people. It's just a word dammit. Reminds me of this intelligent Kids in the Hall skit. |
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oh god please let's not start this again
*cough* but yes, in no way does the word "git" have any sort of historical meaning compared to "retard" which is hurtful to those with learning disabilities. "git" is the same as calling someone "silly" and it REALLY doesn't come close to calling someone a slur. Also "muh freeze peach" doesn't apply on a private website with their own code of conduct. In any case, why not let all people feel welcome? If you wanna go ahead and say that shit, go ahead, but don't be surprised when people call you a dick. (Also inb4 skids try to make a counterpoint by saying that calling someone a dick is just as bad as saying "retard") *cough*
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oh god please let's not start this again*cough* but yes, in no way does the word "git" have any sort of historical meaning compared to "retard" which is hurtful to those with learning disabilities. "git" is the same as calling someone "silly" and it REALLY doesn't come close to calling someone a slur. Also "muh freeze peach" doesn't apply on a private website with their own code of conduct. In any case, why not let all people feel welcome? If you wanna go ahead and say that shit, go ahead, but don't be surprised when people call you a dick. (Also inb4 skids try to make a counterpoint by saying that calling someone a dick is just as bad as saying "retard") *cough* |
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Get over it, snowflakes. You are just like the "sjws" you're complaining about. You ain't havin' none of those freeze peaches.
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Get over it, snowflakes. You are just like the "sjws" you're complaining about. You ain't havin' none of those freeze peaches. |
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There are two kinds of people in this world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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Now I wonder, what else could they possibly ban? |
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Hope in humanity: -20pt |
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Why am I still subscribed to this commit? |
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Just host on your own with https://rhodecode.com/ - Supports git,mercurial and svn + its open source.
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Just host on your own with https://rhodecode.com/ - Supports git,mercurial and svn + its open source. |
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anyone else in this thread smoke weed |
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@ticki @Joaquin-V @nixxquality @go1dfish @MarbleFag @tolbiac110 @smeezekitty @woat @ergo @makc @ddraws @hendraanggrian @snow-frog @mryellow @nuxy @RichardJCase
emoji movie in theaters tomorrow. who up to go?
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@ticki @Joaquin-V @nixxquality @go1dfish @MarbleFag @tolbiac110 @smeezekitty @woat @ergo @makc @ddraws @hendraanggrian @snow-frog @mryellow @nuxy @RichardJCase emoji movie in theaters tomorrow. who up to go? |
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onodera-punpun
Jul 27, 2017
Anyone wants do some kind of live viewing thing once it's up for download? Where we discuss the movie live in this thread?
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Anyone wants do some kind of live viewing thing once it's up for download? Where we discuss the movie live in this thread? |
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ticki
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Sounds cool to me. |
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Great idea. |
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piedoom
Jul 29, 2017
hey guys, i found this new book and i was wondering if any of you had any thoughts.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf
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hey guys, i found this new book and i was wondering if any of you had any thoughts. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf |
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@piedoom A good read indeed. |
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my name isnt |
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Retards |
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add me on facebook please, |



I think you mean "This is gitted"