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Brahmi: conjucts are missing from the fontΒ #1
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Moved from googlei18n/noto-alpha#277
Brahmi conjuncts are missing from Noto Sans Brahmi.
For example, see the attached rendering of the sequence π²ππ― πππ± πππ (11032 11046 1102F 20 11013 11046 11031 20 1101A 11046 1101C) and compare with Figure 14-1 of the Unicode Standard (http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode7.0.0/ch14.pdf, page 539).
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jungshik commentedon Jul 21, 2015
Copied from googlei18n/noto-alpha#277 ( @xiangyexiao's comment )
Noto:
For Sue's easier check, Unicode requires this conjunct:
jungshik commentedon Jul 21, 2015
/cc @behdad @xiangyexiao
/cc @kmansourMT @waksmonskiMT @JelleBosmaMT
I'm not sure if it's Jelle or Kamal. I'm assigning to Sue for now.
cybermonk888 commentedon Jul 28, 2015
Everything is missing. Am I doing something wrongly? Please suggest & Help.
Regards
JelleBosmaMT commentedon Jul 28, 2015
I have no involvement in the production of the Noto brahmi font.
But as I am being notified of the issue I had a look:
On the Mac I installed the font. With the Pages app and the help of the
Character Viewer I can enter Brahmi characters. If a consonant is followed
by a vowel, I see ligatures or contextual forms appearing. So the font is
functional.
In Windows 8.1 the view of the font in the Character Map utility is empty
for me too. Brahmi is using Unicodes above FFFF. These do not work with
the Character Map. Try BabelPad (free download), which has a build in
character map. I see ligatures with vowel signs there too.
It may also work in Word for Windows, through the insert character
functionality. But I havenβt tried.
JelleBosmaMT commentedon Jul 28, 2015
I have no involvement in the production of the Noto brahmi font.
But as I am being notified of the issue I had a look:
On the Mac I installed the font. With the Pages app and the help of the
Character Viewer I can enter Brahmi characters. If a consonant is followed
by a vowel, I see ligatures or contextual forms appearing. So the font is
functional.
In Windows 8.1 the view of the font in the Character Map utility is empty
for me too. Brahmi is using Unicodes above FFFF. These do not work with
the Character Map. Try BabelPad (free download), which has a build in
character map. I see ligatures with vowel signs there too.
It may also work in Word for Windows, through the insert character
functionality. But I havenβt tried.
On 28-jul.-15 17:57, "cybermonk888" notifications@github.com wrote:
cybermonk888 commentedon Jul 29, 2015
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Will definitely try it on Babelpad.
Warm Regards
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Jelle Bosma notifications@github.com
wrote:
Astavie commentedon Jun 19, 2017
It's been almost two years, and this still hasn't been solved?
π€ππ¦ <- these two characters should be forming a ligature. But in Noto Sans, they don't.
This is how I see the two characters
sridatta1 commentedon Nov 30, 2017
Any updates on this issue?
Conjuncts are still missing in Brahmi (and Kharoshthi font)
Hope for future historical and minority Indic scripts the fonts are made after detailed study of orthography, conjuncts, special forms etc. consulting primary sources (such as manuscripts) and experts etc.
kmansourMT commentedon Dec 4, 2017
What should the ligature of (u11024+u11046+u11026) look like? Please provide a visual sample.
/cc @sridatta1
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kmansourMT commentedon Mar 16, 2018
Fixes for the reported bugs are on their way in an updated version.
nizarsq commentedon Aug 1, 2020
Conjuncts are ok at this time. Used NotoSansBrahmi in https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-fonts/tree/master/phaseIII_only/unhinted/ttf/NotoSansBrahmi/NotoSansBrahmi-Regular.ttf
dscorbett commentedon Aug 5, 2020
This should be reopened. Brahmi uses lots of conjuncts. It is not sufficient to only support The Unicode Standardβs three example conjuncts. Here are some links to get you started.
baums commentedon Jun 21, 2022
For KharoαΉ£αΉhΔ«, please refer to Andrew Glassβs (almost) complete Kharoshthi Unicode font
https://github.com/kharoshthiunicode/kharoshthi_unicode_font
(license: GPL) for the rules and combinations that are needed.
I recently added KharoαΉ£αΉhΔ« support to Emacs that may be helpful in working on this:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/etc/NEWS?id=521de5ab626948044f2478245677cd0b801110d9
If you have any questions about how things should look and behave, please do not hesitate to ask.