NVDA announces "Article" before every article while browsing the articles via quick keys

[akash07k]

Steps to reproduce:

1. Start NVDA
2. Open a web page containing the articles (Such as twitter or mbasic.facebook.com), and (If required) go to NVDA input gestures settings and asign the reading of the next and previous article on a quick key.
3. Turn on the reporting of the articles from NVDA document formatting settings.
4. Now navigate on the web page via quick key which you have just asigned for navigating to the articles
5. It can also be verified without asigning any quick key for the articles by using just heading navigating command "H"
6. Observe, NVDA reports "Article" before every article even though browsing via quick key (no matter it is specifically for article reading or heading navigation) which is very annoying. (It doesn't happen other elements when we use the quick keys.

Actual behavior:

if we turn on the article announcement from the "document format settings", NVDA announces the "article" before every article even though browsing it via heading navigating quick key: "H" or specifically asigned article reading quick key..
It is very problematic and time consuming to here "article" with every element such as: headings while browsing.

Expected behavior:

When we use the quick keys to navigate to the articles on a web page, the article text/label should be announced first and then "article" should be announced after it,

System configuration

NVDA installed/portable/running from source:

Tried with both

NVDA version:

Tried with all the versions till latest alpha.

Windows version:

Windows 10 19041.208

Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:

Any of the web browser/electron app

Other information about your system:

Tried on latest fast insider builds too

Other questions

Does the issue still occur after restarting your computer?

Yes always

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? If so, please report their behaviors.

Yes all. Same behaviour/issue

If addons are disabled, is your problem still occuring?

Yes

Did you try to run the COM registry fixing tool in NVDA menu / tools?

Yes

[LeonarddeR]

As the implementer of article, I think I did this on purpose, as this is also the behavior for ARIA landmarks. If you navigate a page with d, for example, you will also hear the landmark announced first.

I however agree that for article, at least those without a label (and I think hardly any have one), this should be changed.

[LeonarddeR]

This requires a change in speech.getControlFieldSpeech, the speakContentFirst variable. Marking as good for new dev.

[Adriani90]

However, given the amount of quick navigation keys which can be reassigned, Users, especially beginners, might forget at some point which key is for which element if this is not reported. You can disable the reporting of articles in document formatting settings and still use the quick navigation key which you assigned. Or is this not working?

[akash07k]

You're right bro, but if we turn off the article reporting, then let's say we are navigating via arrow keys, then too we won't be able to know whether we landed on an article. :(

However, given the amount of quick navigation keys which can be reassigned, Users, especially beginners, might forget at some point which key is for which element if this is not reported. You can disable the reporting of articles in document formatting settings and still use the quick navigation key which you assigned. Or is this not working?

[akash07k]

This requires a change in speech.getControlFieldSpeech, the speakContentFirst variable. Marking as good for new dev.

Wow, what's this label? name looks interesting though.

[akash07k]

Yes, people don't define the name/labels for the nearely all the articles. so for the unnamed articles, it can be changed.

As the implementer of article, I think I did this on purpose, as this is also the behavior for ARIA landmarks. If you navigate a page with d, for example, you will also hear the landmark announced first.

I however agree that for article, at least those without a label (and I think hardly any have one), this should be changed.

[JulienCochuyt]

@LeonarddeR wrote:

I however agree that for article, at least those without a label (and I think hardly any have one), this should be changed.

I agree. If ever an article has a label, your first implemented behavior is preferable, notably as it helps discriminate the label from the content.
When there is no label (vast majority of cases), I guess "article" could be omitted altogether when (and only when) using quick nav by article.
[offtopic] Once again, I'd really prefer a default gesture be assigned to this quick nav, as many users do not even know how to assign these. [/offtopic]

[Adriani90]

@akash07k if you are using arrow key to navigate, I guess the "article" reporting is not important since you are looking for the content of the article. Most articles have also a heading or a link atribute as well. So actually the article atribute is meant only to really boost efficiency while navigating on a website by a quick navigation key. It's only my opinion, but I think reporting of articles might be useful for beginners, but for advanced users the reporting can be turned off in the document formatting settings.

[akash07k]

@Adriani90 Hmm, you are right, but, that way if we'll browse via arrow keys, then we won't be able to know that this page contains the articles at all.
For identifying that, we'll have to explicitly press the article navigation key so that we can know whether there are articles or not.
For example, on the getpocket.com site, every post/article is wrapped in article tag and they are not using any heading tag at all. In that case, if we navigate via arrow keys, then we won't be able to browse that efficiently. However, I'll try to get habitual with your suggestion.

@akash07k if you are using arrow key to navigate, I guess the "article" reporting is not important since you are looking for the content of the article. Most articles have also a heading or a link atribute as well. So actually the article atribute is meant only to really boost efficiency while navigating on a website by a quick navigation key. It's only my opinion, but I think reporting of articles might be useful for beginners, but for advanced users the reporting can be turned off in the document formatting settings.