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Rename focus highlight feature with a more adapted name #11700
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It might be interesting to note that the feature was first called NVDA Highlighter. Visual highlight makes sense to me. |
Hmm yes, things seem to have gotten confused there. NVDA highlighter, Visual highlight, or just highlighter are all fine by me. Perhaps @Qchristensen has an opinion on this? |
"Visual highlight" seems redundant.
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Could you explain a little bit more? Is "visual" redundant with "highlight" or is "Visual highlight redundant with something else (e.g. the "Vision" category)? The question is why the feature was renamed from "NVDA highlight" to "Focus highlight". Maybe because NVDA is a bit generic and all options could be called "NVDA xxx", e.g. "NVDA screen curtain", "NVDA synthesizer", etc. An other proposal could also be "Cursor highlight", cursor being taken in a wide acceptance, as an entity moving around the screen. The various cursor types could be selected: focus, nav object, browse mode cursor and maybe one day text input cursor (caret), mouse pointer, etc. |
"Visual highlight" seems redundant.
Could you explain a little bit more? Is "visual" redundant with "highlight" or is "Visual highlight redundant with something else (e.g. the "Vision"
category)?
I was thinking both, actually.
Highlighting in this context is an exclusively visual feature, and it seemed
redundant to me to mention that it is visual highlighting, because there's no
other kind of highlighting it might be.
Perhaps I am missing a nuance, but the only other use of "highlighting" I can
think of, is to describe a more generalized bringing of something to someone's
attention. E.G. "This evening I would like to highlight the work of Reef Turner
on the NVDA project.". I don't imagine anyone would think that kind of
highlighting is the context here.
But this is a lot of words to describe a small opinion. :)
Could "highlight" not be something not visual? E.g.:
"Raising the TTS speech allows to highlight capitalized letters."
Would this sentence be correct in English? Sorry, English is not my mother language.
Probably "Raising the pitch of TTS speech allows highlighting of capitalized
letters." would be a more exact way to say that in English if you wanted to use
the word highlight, but I suspect most English speakers wouldn't say it that
way. That said, it would not be incorrect, just unusual--English is flexible.
"Raising the pitch of the speech provides an indication that a letter has been
capitalized.", might be a more common English form of the same thing.
The question is why the feature was renamed from "NVDA highlight" to "Focus highlight". Maybe because NVDA is a bit generic and all options could be called
"NVDA xxx", e.g. "NVDA screen curtain", "NVDA synthesizer", etc.
Also my thinking.
An other proposal could also be "Cursor highlight", cursor being taken in a wide acceptance, as an entity moving around the screen. The various cursor types
could be selected: focus, nav object, browse mode cursor and maybe one day text input cursor (caret), mouse pointer, etc.
I do like that one. It is descriptive of the feature, non-redundant, and makes
clear both what is being high-lit, and what sense of the word highlight is being
used.
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I think "Visual Highlight" is less redundant in the context of a screen-reader than elsewhere. EG the main use I have seen on the PC for "highlight" is what we would otherwise call select (which could then be followed by copying, deleting or formatting the higlighted or selected text). In this case what we are talking about is something which is purely visual and has no effect on behaviour. Because most of what NVDA does is NOT specifically visual, I don't think it's a problem to, er, highlight, the few features which are. I am happy with NVDA Highlight or Visual Highlight. I would be interested to know though, does anyone recall why NVDA highlight was renamed Focus highlight in the first place? |
Thanks @Qchristensen for commenting. Could you also comment on the 'Cursor highlight' proposal? |
For all: just to remind that 'Marked (highlighted text)' is now an option in Document formatting settings. I do not think there is a risk of confusion, but I wanted to mention it, just for completeness. |
A lot of people might associate cursor particularly with the text cursor (caret) - with that concept in mind, it could be confusing trying to associate it (mentally) with higlighting things like where the focus is in the start menu or in a settings screen. |
To summarize, there are 3 proposals (almost 4 with current one) for now:
Also Cc @nishimotz, author of Focus Highlight add-on. If nothing better is found, I would personally prefer 'Visual highlight' (proposal 3). among these 4 proposals. But I regret that the idea of highlighting a tracked object moving around the screen is not conveyed by this term. miss the mention |
One further perspective to consider: Focus can refer not to a technical term, but to the users area of interest. EG the part of the screen that has the users attention. As developers it is easy to get caught up in technical jargon, which isn't necessarily how the words are interpreted by end users. Being technically correct is not as important as being easily understood by the majority of users. |
I'm not against this proposal. |
Steps to reproduce:
Actual behavior:
The feature is called Focus Highlight. But it may highlight not only system focus but also the navigator objetct and the browse mode cursor.
Expected behavior:
A clearer name should be found for this feature. What about "Visual Highlight"?
We would lose the idea that these highlighters follow a localized object moving around the screen such as the focus or a cursor. But this would at least allow not to use the term 'focus' for the navigator object or a cursor (browse mode one).
Notes and context
English is not my mother language so maybe there is no problem in English. In the French translated UI, it sounds strange to me that the object navigator and the browse mode cursor options belong to the Focus Highlight group.
Note that this issue is just a matter of terminology. I do not intend to change the organization of the Vision panel options. And it makes sens to me to have a group of visual highlighters containing focus, nav object and browse mode cursor.
System configuration
NVDA installed/portable/running from source:
Instlaled
NVDA version:
2020.3beta2
Windows version:
10
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:
Other information about your system:
Other questions
Does the issue still occur after restarting your computer?
yes
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? If so, please report their behaviors.
Same as 2019.3
If addons are disabled, is your problem still occuring?
Did you try to run the COM registry fixing tool in NVDA menu / tools?
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