nvda does not announce first line indentation in libre office writer

[fernando-jose-silva]

Steps to reproduce:

open the free office writer.
type a paragraph with 2 lines
apply the effects

first line indent (change the default, I put 1.30)
Now read the applied formatting

Actual behavior:

nvda does not report the indentation of the first line

Expected behavior:

nvda should report the indentation of the first line

System configuration

NVDA installed/portable/running from source:

instaled

NVDA version:

NVDA version alpha-24184,fd9ae8c4

Windows version:

11 22000.318

Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:

LibreOffice version 7.3.0.0

Other information about your system:

Other questions

Does the issue still occur after restarting your computer?

yes

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? If so, please report their behaviors.

no

If NVDA add-ons are disabled, is your problem still occurring?

yes

Does the issue still occur after you run the COM Registration Fixing Tool in NVDA's tools menu?

yes

[cyrmax]

November 17 2022, this issue still exists.
I guess this problem cannot be fixed on NVDA side. The issue should be reported to Libre Office developers.

[seanbudd]

I guess this problem cannot be fixed on NVDA side.

Is there a reason for this assumption?
NV Access has not performed an investigation yet.
Reporting it to LibreOffice developers may help, but the issue could still be with NVDA as far as we are aware.

[cyrmax]

Is there a reason for this assumption? NV Access has not performed an investigation yet. Reporting it to LibreOffice developers may help, but the issue could still be with NVDA as far as we are aware.

I have tested this behavior on LinuxMint and there are problems too. Orca reads randomly "on, off, on" and letters that i press along with ctrl key to set alignment, something like "e on off on" or "j off on".

Also i know that in Microsoft Word such things like changes of alignment, tabulation, etc are reported to screen readers via UIA or something like this.
So i thought that Libre Office should report information to NVDA for reading.

[CyrilleB79]

@fernando-jose-silva do you confirm that it is a duplicate of #6913 regarding the text alignment issue?

If yes, the current issue can remain open for the part related to indentation. Could you then please update the title and maybe also the initial description?

[fernando-jose-silva]

nº 6913
appears to be duplicated from the right, centered alignment information.
the problem remained for first line indentation

[Adriani90]

cc: @michaelweghorn, it seems in MS Word it works as expected but not in LO 25.2.

[michaelweghorn]

cc: @michaelweghorn, it seems in MS Word it works as expected but not in LO 25.2.

@Adriani90 I can confirm that. Looking at the IAccessible2 object specification (and the referenced CSS spec), implementing support for the "text-indent" object property in both, LibreOffice and NVDA might be a way to make it work.

[michaelweghorn]

Looking at the IAccessible2 object specification (and the referenced CSS spec), implementing support for the "text-indent" object property in both, LibreOffice and NVDA might be a way to make it work.

LO >= 25.8 now reports that attribute, see commit https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/a2d3c9341f177b720d7a52e70759721d3221037f

PR to implement the NVDA side: #17638