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spinosaur opened this Issue May 28, 2014 · 4 comments

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spinosaur commented May 28, 2014

We suggest making "craniomandibular joint" the preferred term (rather than jaw joint). Jaw joint can refer to other joints in the upper and lower jaws.

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RDruzinsky commented May 28, 2014

Agreed.

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We suggest making "craniomandibular joint" the preferred term (rather than
jaw joint). Jaw joint can refer to other joints in the upper and lower jaws.


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cmungall commented May 28, 2014

Good suggestion. Jaw joint is definitely problematic. We want the term to reflect the logical definition (joint connecting upper and lower jaw skeletons)

I have a question about the use of mandibular. Sometimes this can refer specifically to the dentary in mammals, sometimes it is used more generically for lower jaw (ignoring for now the more confusing even more general use e.g. for jaws in general in insects, or upper beaks...)

Should we enshrine mandibular as pertaining to the lower jaw skeleton across vertebrates (whether dermal or splanchnocranium)? If so, then "craniomandibular" is perfect, just wanted to check first.

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RDruzinsky commented May 28, 2014

"Mandible" is extremely problematic. Yes, it is both a generic term that
refers to the lower jaw even in insects and the lower jaw of vertebrates
that is made up of multiple bones, but it is also the single, dermal bone
of mammals that forms the lower jaw. However, I guess we could use the term
"mandible_bone" to refer to the single, dermal bone of mammals.

Robert E. Druzinsky, Ph.D.
Clinical Associate Professor
Dept. of Oral Biology
College of Dentistry
University of Illinois at Chicago
801 S. Paulina
Chicago, IL 60612
druzinsk@uic.edu

Office: 312-996-0406
Lab: 312-996-0629
Website: www.peerj.com/RobertDruzinsky

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Chris Mungall notifications@github.comwrote:

Good suggestion. Jaw joint is definitely problematic. We want the term to
reflect the logical definition (joint connecting upper and lower jaw
skeletons)

I have a question about the use of mandibular. Sometimes this can refer
specifically to the dentary in mammals, sometimes it is used more
generically for lower jaw (ignoring for now the more confusing even more
general use e.g. for jaws in general in insects, or upper beaks...)

Should we enshrine mandibular as pertaining to the lower jaw skeleton
across vertebrates (whether dermal or splanchnocranium)? If so, then
"craniomandibular" is perfect, just wanted to check first.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com//issues/463#issuecomment-44460167
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cmungall commented Jun 3, 2014

I have temporarily given it a less ambiguous (but rather ugly) name, with "craniomandibular joint" as a synonym. Let's see what others say. It may be fine to just go with "craniomandibular joint" as the primary label and note that this connects upper and lower jaw skeletons

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