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Term request: Superficial vein #680

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drseb opened this Issue Apr 11, 2015 · 4 comments

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drseb commented Apr 11, 2015

We would like to remove references to FMA and use UBERON. Could you add (if not already present) a class for "Superficial vein". In FMA this has the ID FMA:76719.

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cmungall commented Apr 12, 2015

Any idea for a good differentia? So far we've been using PATO which is unsatisfactory. Grey's says "The superficial veins are placed immediately beneath the integument between the two layers of superficial fascia", i.e. located_in UBERON:0011818 ! superficial fascia

Can you add a def to

[Term]
id: HP:0001015
name: Prominent superficial veins
namespace: human_phenotype
xref: UMLS:C1837785
is_a: HP:0002624  ! Venous abnormality
is_a: HP:0007394  ! Prominent superficial blood vessels
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drseb commented Apr 13, 2015

Requested textual definition at https://sourceforge.net/p/obo/human-phenotype-requests/447/

For now I moved the logical def to the comment annotation in hpo.

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drseb commented Apr 20, 2015

The textual definition is now: "A condition in which superficial veins (i.e., veins just under the skin) are more conspicuous or noticable than normal." An example can be found in Figure 4 of http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24456199.

So should I just use:

  • 'blood vessel' and ('part of' some 'skin of body')
    • vein and ('part of' some 'skin of body')
    • artery and ('part of' some 'skin of body')
      for this and the related HPO terms? Or do you think "under the skin" is not 'part of skin'? But then keep in mind that this and related HPO classes are all subclasses of 'Vascular skin abnormalities'.

Note that there is a multitude of subclasses for vasculature, e.g. kidney vasculature, vasculature of liver, etc.
Maybe UBERON can have a thought about adding:

  • vasculature of skin
    • vein of skin
    • artery of skin
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cmungall commented Apr 30, 2015

added UBERON:0035550

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