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Use of term "Foundation" to refer to the ETH chain on bottom of main web UI page #6217

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bamos01 opened this issue Aug 2, 2017 · 12 comments
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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 2, 2017

In parity 1.7, the use of the term "FOUNDATION" to refer to the ETH chain on the bottom corner of the main web UI page is both confusing and insulting. I have never seen this term used before to refer to ETH outside of people who are trolling Ethereum users that ETH is a centralized chain controlled by the EF. Therefore, when I saw it, I thought I was on a consortium chain and it took me a long time to figure out what it meant. Can you please consider replacing this name with the clearer and more neutral term like "ETH" or alternatively "mainnet" as is currently used on the wiki page? 'Foundation Chain' is definitely an insult to people who are trying to build ETH as a decentralized project and many contributors do not work for the EF.

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@3esmit 3esmit commented Aug 3, 2017

I agree with this, mainnet is the chain that created and funded the ethereum development.
The thing is that Paritytech looks forward Polkadots and does not see any chain as "Main", but I disagree because I see that without ethereum mainnet there would be no Paritytech and no polkadots to be built.

But this is just a detail... And the worst part is that might be confusing to new users that are not aware about EF, just want to use the Ether they brought at Coinbase.

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@5chdn 5chdn commented Aug 3, 2017

It's just a term referring to the network initially realized by the foundation. Key members of Parity were part of that process and they are not using this term to insult anyone.

The idea behind this terminology is to allow easily distinguishing between different main networks. "Ethereum" is ambiguous. "Main Network" even more. Parity supports the following main networks by default:

  • Ethereum (ETH)
  • Ethereum Classic (ETC)
  • Expanse (EXP)

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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 3, 2017

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@3esmit 3esmit commented Aug 8, 2017

@bamos01 if you feel this issue is not solved you need to reopen it.

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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 8, 2017

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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 8, 2017

@3esmit - would you mind asking people at Parity about it? I'm not getting anywhere- they have provided answer as to why they dont want to use 'mainnet' or 'ethereum' but not much clearer and neutral abbreviations like "ETH" - I think users will be upset once they begin to realize what they have done

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@5chdn 5chdn commented Aug 8, 2017

Sorry, assumed this was answered. Reopening.

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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 8, 2017

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@3esmit 3esmit commented Aug 11, 2017

I like MyEtherWallet apporch, it's obviously clear what network you are.
the options are:
ETH
ETC
Ropsten
Kovan
and others.

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@sonulrk sonulrk commented Aug 11, 2017

Yes, it is confusing. Earlier it was homestead. I'm not aware about trolling "Foundation" but to use "ETH" is better.

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@5chdn 5chdn commented Aug 22, 2017

You can modify the chain specification to say ETH rather than Foundation, by just renaming the name field, like this: https://gist.github.com/5chdn/a67fe2082d59a07fdaa34c16632742e4

screenshot at 2017-08-22 14-04-03

And then just run parity --chain eth.json

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@bamos01 bamos01 commented Aug 22, 2017

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