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Are journal entries searchable through Google Scholar? #132

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rickyjeffrey opened this issue Sep 17, 2015 · 26 comments
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Are journal entries searchable through Google Scholar? #132

rickyjeffrey opened this issue Sep 17, 2015 · 26 comments

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@rickyjeffrey
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Hi

I love the site.

Are journal entries searchable through Google Scholar? In the same way articles in traditional academic journals will show up in Google Scholar searches. If not, is this something you're hoping to establish in the near future?

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Ricky
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arfon commented Dec 15, 2015

Hi @rickyjeffrey, thanks for the feedback! As far as I'm aware we're not currently indexed by Google Scholar. I know that some services (such as Altmetric) have begun tracking references to us but ultimately I expect this will happen if Google Scholar start ingesting the Zenodo records (where we get our DOIs from).

@lnielsen - do you know if Google Scholar indexes Zenodo?

@lnielsen
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Zenodo is unfortunately only being selectively indexed by Google Scholar (1.5k out of 30k records), and we haven't found a way yet to get the rest in yet.

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arfon commented Dec 16, 2015

Zenodo is unfortunately only being selectively indexed by Google Scholar (1.5k out of 30k records), and we haven't found a way yet to get the rest in yet.

Do you know what logic is being applied here? Is this something worth reaching out to the Google folks about?

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kettner commented Mar 16, 2016

Thank you for this post, I stumbled upon it when searching for zenodo and tracking of citations, and it is exactly what I'm looking for.

@lnielsen would you know what selection criteria Google Scholar is using to to get Zenodo records into Google Scholar? And is there a way to track if the number of ingested Zenodo records in Google Scholar has increased over time?

Thank you!

@alexpacini
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Google has some rules here: https://scholar.google.co.uk/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html#indexing

@lnielsen
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lnielsen commented Feb 5, 2017

We're in contact with Google regarding solving the issue.

@Maxiaojian66
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If the brief ideas can be searchable through Google Scholar, that will be a good thing to spread the idea itself.

@ikashnitsky
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@lnielsen could you please inform when there will be an outcome of your checking with GS?

@ljvmiranda921
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Hi, any updates on this?

@lnielsen
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Yes, we need to change the entire URL structure on Zenodo which is a very big change, hence it's going to take some time to fix. Google Scholar only wants to index text-based content which is an issue when dealing with mixed-content repository like Zenodo. GS requires that the content is split out by URL, and unfortunately cannot do this via e.g. meta-tags or similar. Also, we need a complete index update on GS which happens every 6 months, so this is likely going to take some time before being fully resolved.

@christofs
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Hi there, are there any updates or new developments on this issue?

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yaxu commented Mar 13, 2019

Any more updates @lnielsen ?

@tashrifbillah
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tashrifbillah commented Mar 29, 2019 •
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Is there an update about getting Google Scholar to track Zenodo DOI? I mean my Zenodo DOIs don't appear on Google Scholar.

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@amaatouq
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any updates or new developments on this issue?

@interactionable
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interactionable commented Sep 1, 2019 •
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Hello, also wondering if there were any updates on this issue. Love Zenodo but it would be great if at least even the text-based entries could be consistently crawled by Google Scholar.

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averger1 commented Jan 8, 2020

Any updates on this? I have created a repository with Zenodo and I am interested in scholar google indexing the papers we upload there with a Zenodo DOI. Thanks in advance

@kettner
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kettner commented Jan 8, 2020

Not sure if I get your question right but I moved away from scholar google to get the number of citations per publication. I have talked several times with people from google but they keep indicated they are not allowed given the contracts they have with the various publishers, to let people mine the number of citations. Instead I'm using now Academia Microsoft (https://academic.microsoft.com/home). Their API makes it possible to get this. Notice they provide two citation numbers CC and ECC, see for more information: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1751157717302900
Hope that helps.

@JoyeBright
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Any updated news?

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Maxiaojian66 commented Dec 13, 2020 via email

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alberto-martin commented Jan 27, 2022 •
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Yes, we need to change the entire URL structure on Zenodo which is a very big change, hence it's going to take some time to fix. Google Scholar only wants to index text-based content which is an issue when dealing with mixed-content repository like Zenodo. GS requires that the content is split out by URL, and unfortunately cannot do this via e.g. meta-tags or similar. Also, we need a complete index update on GS which happens every 6 months, so this is likely going to take some time before being fully resolved.

I would be grateful for any new info on this issue. From time to time I get questions from colleagues about this and I refer people to this answer by @lnielsen. Is the requirement of content type differentiation in the URL still the barrier for inclusion in Google Scholar?

Thanks!

@lnielsen
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This is my own personal opinion (I'm not longer Zenodo Service Manager).

Yes it is still an issue, and there's no movement in this from Google Scholar nor Zenodo side. Note, that Google Dataset Search have no issues in indexing Zenodo.

Zenodo provides a wealth of possibilities for being indexed. Zenodo register all metadata in DataCite, provides standard compliant harvesting protocols such as XML sitemaps and OAI-PMH for harvesting. Zenodo embeds JSON-LD in all landing pages and include citation metadata in landing pages. All the options provideed are according to well-defined standards. GS is the only indexing service I'm aware of that require splitting content type by URL which is their own completely self-invented way which is not compliant with any open standard.

I suggest you provide your feedback to Google Scholar or alternatively use a different service as suggest higher up in the comments.

@alberto-martin
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Thank you for the confirmation! Yes, GS seems to be quite set in its preferred way to index new documents and doesn't seem to want to move on with the times.

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luciorq commented Aug 3, 2022

Since that is an issue with GS that is not going to be solved.

Can anyone suggest an updated source for tracking Zenodo citations?

Looks like the Microsoft Academic (suggested by @kettner) is a retired service1.

@kettner
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kettner commented Aug 5, 2022

An alternative service for GS would be: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/

And here is a good place to start if you're interested in their API service: https://api.semanticscholar.org/api-docs/graph

Sorry, I'm a bit swamped so I keep it short but hope the above helps

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nemobis commented Aug 5, 2022 via email

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kettner commented Oct 11, 2022 via email

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