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Violation of code of conduct in #6442

SomeoneElseOSM opened this issue May 27, 2019 · 3 comments


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commented May 27, 2019

iD has a code of conduct at and I believe that #6409 (comment) breaks a number of the rules outlined there. Specifically it

  • clearly fails to "Please be respectful to one another."
  • does not "assume that the person with whom you disagree is a smart person with good reasons for believing something different"
  • includes "Trolling or insulting/derogatory comments"

To be clear, I don't think that anyone doubts that the sometimes iD developers sometimes have to make difficult and unpopular decisions, and sometimes threads need to be locked to keep the same old questions being raised over and over again. That doesn't however seems to have been what's happened here - there's been relatively little discussion on #6042 and #6409 was closed with what can only be described as something of a rant.

I would suggest that, in line with the "When you make a mistake, apologize." clause of , that a personal apology is made to the people referred to in that comment. This should include:

  • the "people on a mostly dormant mailing list" (the tagging list, I presume)
  • people who contribute to the osm wiki
  • people who contribute to "the weekly osm tabloid" ( I presume)

Best Regards,


PS: For the avoidance of doubt this is written in an entirely personal capacity. Full disclosure - I do occasionally edit and review prior to publication (as can anyone else if they wish to sign up to do so).


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@SomeoneElseOSM I take code of conduct violations very seriously. I'll ask for an independent volunteer who has been trained to take a report to follow up with you as soon as possible. This would normally be an anonymous process, but since you have opened up a public issue about it, we can't guarantee that for you.

Anyway, I'm asking you to limit your interaction with the iD project while the investigation happens, and I'll do the same.

I'm locking this thread - I know people hate when I do that, but further discussion of a CoC complaint is really not a good thing. (In the previous situation, I locked the thread because people where asked elsewhere to drop in and complain, not because there was a discussion happening).

In the future I'd really appreciate if people follow the part that says "Instances of unacceptable behavior may be reported privately to the project maintainers." Yes, I know it's about me and I'm the maintainer, but we would still follow the process and try to treat everyone fairly.

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commented Jun 20, 2019


I’m an OSM-US & OSMF community member with prior training in CoC response. I was asked to adjudicate this incident. Here’s a synopsis of my review:

I reached out to the reporter (@SomeoneElseOSM) via 1:1 email on May 28th, 2019 to take a report of this incident. I reviewed the details of that report, which included the information in this Github issue above.

After this review, it is my belief that while the comment goes to great lengths to cordially state the view of the reportee (@bhousel ), parts of it do contain a derogatory tone. It is recommended that @bhousel should adhere to the stated iD Code of Conduct guideline of “When you make a mistake, apologize.” Specifically, its asked that an apology is posted below his comment on the iD Project GitHub issue. Both parties received a formal CoC response letter via email and I have personally discussed the response with them over phone/video chat.

I’d also like to add that this CoC review and report was difficult due to the lack of more formal processes for reporting and reviewing CoC issues. While reviewing, I consulted with two other community members (not involved with the incident) about CoC procedures in OSM. Therefore, I'd also like to recommend that the iD Project:

  • Creates a safe space for iD Project Code of Conduct reports to be made, such as a standard form available as a link from the CoC.
  • Designates individuals not involved with the project to handle Code of Conduct issues, ideally through a committee or working group made of diverse community members.
  • Work with other community members to develop a formal iD Project Code of Conduct process/procedure.

Please feel free to reach out to me with any comments, questions, or concerns.
Jonah Adkins

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