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Default view Eurocentric #1586

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jidanni opened this issue Jul 15, 2017 · 15 comments

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commented Jul 15, 2017

Users first visiting the site see a map centered on London.

Please chose five or more big cities, on different continents, and randomly center the map on them too.

Or even use location information from the user's browser, maybe.

Whatever you do, don't appear to always favor a certain country / continent, etc.

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commented Jul 15, 2017

We use geoip - the default view you describe only happens if we don't get a geoip result for your IP address (and if you have no location cookie from a previous visit).

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commented Jul 15, 2017

Well, wouldn't you think my ideas have a minimal degree of merit, in the case that the geoIP fails?

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commented Jul 15, 2017

Furthermore, I am only discussing the single case of people who have no cookie. Therefore I believe my comments are 100% relevant.

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commented Jul 15, 2017

What is your basis for believing that London should be the single default choice?

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commented Jul 15, 2017

London isn't - the default view should be of the whole of western europe I believe. That is mostly because at the time it was chosen that was where the maps looked best!

The problem with browser location is that for many people it is just geoip and at the same time it's a horrible user experience because the first thing that happens when you visit what is probably a new site to you is that the browser shoves a permission box in your face.

We could do a randomisation thing but, and if somebody offered a pull request then we could consider it but it's not clear to me that it warrants a bug that will likely just sit here forever in the absence of anybody interested enough to implement it.

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commented Jul 15, 2017

Selecting a random location is sure to confuse people. If a change is required for reasons of inclusivity then I'd simply zoom out to show the full planet, but frankly, with the project undeniably having its roots in the UK I don't mind that little reminder when you first visit the page AND have no GeoIP.

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commented Jul 16, 2017

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commented Jul 16, 2017

Maybe use http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=2/30.0/0.0 for the whole
world view.

Also looking at the https://www.google.com/search?q=geoip all the tests I did
could at least tell 114.41.39.166 is in Taiwan, alas
$ firefox --private-window http://www.openstreetmap.org/
still opens http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/51.500/-0.100
Is the geoIP function still working for anybody?

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commented Jul 16, 2017

Obviously it's tricky for me to test because I'm in the UK but I just changed the source to hardwire that address in place of using the real client address and loaded my dev site in a private window and this is what I saw:

screenshot from 2017-07-16 18-30-16

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commented Jul 16, 2017

Hmm actually it looks like there might be an issue with the production servers...

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commented Jul 16, 2017

I suppose once your fix kicks in, users should only be staring at London 0.01 % percent of the time, thus no more Eurocentric.

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commented Jul 16, 2017

It is deployed now if you want to try it again.

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commented Jul 22, 2017

Alas now showing London again. Today I'm coming from 114.26.47.27 .

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commented Jul 22, 2017

Oops. must have been cookie pollution from my last experiment. With a pristine browser the problem goes away.

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