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Rename Camlistore to Perkeep #981

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bradfitz opened this issue Dec 5, 2017 · 47 comments
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Rename Camlistore to Perkeep #981

bradfitz opened this issue Dec 5, 2017 · 47 comments

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@bradfitz
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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 5, 2017

It's time to finally rename Camlistore.

Camlistore was always supposed to be a temporary name, and it survived for way too long (over 7 years so far!).

Problems with the name Camlistore:

  • It's a nerdy acronym for Content-Addressable Multi-Layer Indexed Storage, which is nerdy. Nerdy was fine when the target was nerds, but as it gets increasing usable & user-friendly, I'd like a more approachable name.
  • I pronounce it Cam-lee-store, but most people say Camel-store.
  • People think it's written in OCaml. It's not.
  • It's three syllables.
  • Back before LetsEncrypt, companies wouldn't give us cheap/free certs because Camlistore contains the substring "store", so therefore it's used for commerce and we need an enhanced certificate blah blah. (No longer relevant, but amusing.)

After much thought and research, we've settled on the name Perkeep.

Perkeep lets you permanently keep things in your permanent keep.

I like that keep works as both a,

  • verb -- "have or retain possession of"
  • noun -- "the strongest or central tower of a castle, acting as a final refuge"

And "per" is a prefix for "through", which makes me think of data moving around, importers, exporters, etc. It's also short for "permanent".

I bought the relevant domain names and can't find existing users.

Things to update:

  • domain name, redirects
  • website
  • mascot (I'm thinking a derpy parakeet, "Keepy, the Perkeep Parakeet" maybe). I think @ashleymcnamara might still be interested in designing it for us.
  • docs
  • code structure, daemon/CLI names
  • github repo (second to last)
  • gerrit hostname (lowest priority, probably last)

Camlistore references will persist for quite some time, so we might as well partially embrace it with stuff like. "Perkeep, née Camlistore".

For daemon names, I'm thinking e.g.

  • server/perkeepd

For CLI tools:

  • cmd/pkput (camput)
  • cmd/pkget (camget)
  • cmd/pk (camtool)

cmd/pk could even get "get" and "put" subcommands that call the pkput/pkget binaries/code.

What else am I forgetting?

e.g. the name "perkeep" doesn't mean something offensive in some language I don't know, does it? Google Translate suggests we're safe there.

/cc @mpl @lindner @willnorris @tgulacsi @bslatkin

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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 5, 2017

Well, crap, I never checked whether the Twitter account was free, and it's not: https://twitter.com/perkeep

Hasn't been used since 2014. I wonder if it's possible to get. Perhaps the owner will rename to something else.

Otherwise we need a new Twitter handle.

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 5, 2017

Small note: I'm not sure how it works in english, but if it's supposed to mimick the french word, "née" is a past participle that follows the subject, so it's "né" if the subject is male, and only "née" if it's female.

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@buro9 buro9 commented Dec 5, 2017

Whom do we know at Twitter? :)

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@josephholsten josephholsten commented Dec 5, 2017

"née" is primarily seen in english to express a woman's maiden name. So it is frequently (mis)used in this way.

I also have no problems with a piece of software being grammatically feminine. ;-)

More importantly, I don't care what color this bike shed ends up. But I'm looking forward to the new name!

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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 5, 2017

@buro9, I filed a Twitter support request. @nickoneill told me:

Twitter says if a user hasn't logged in for a year, you can file a support request and get unused twitter names.

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 5, 2017

although this seems to say it's only for trademarks https://support.twitter.com/articles/15362

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@natefinch natefinch commented Dec 5, 2017

Yeah, I was gonna say, my searches on that say that twitter basically never lets old handles go free, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

until them I suggest taking like PerKeepDotOrg or something similar. It's fairly common (see twitter.com/GoHugoIO)

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@tgulacsi tgulacsi commented Dec 5, 2017

Will Perkeep come true my last two wishes for Camlistore, better documentation for multitenant mode, and a merged-in union storage implementation?

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@odeke-em odeke-em commented Dec 5, 2017

@bradfitz how about PerKeepr -- Permanent Keeper? Handles available:

Platform Handle Available
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/perkeepr Yes
Twitter https://twitter.com/perkeepr Yes
Github https://github.com/perkeepr Yes
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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 5, 2017

I don't want to do the Flickr -r thing. Also, I like "keep" as-is for being a real word. Sounds more professional. And "Perkeepr" makes me think of Trapper Keeper from my childhood.

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@odeke-em odeke-em commented Dec 5, 2017

Gotcha gotcha. Kuddos for the longevity and on Camlistore's graduation to PerKeep.

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 5, 2017

Among the other places to update:

https://opensource.google.com/projects/camlistore

Probably trivial for @bradfitz or @willnorris to do.

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@cure cure commented Dec 6, 2017

@bradfitz Keep is definitely a good name. The storage layer in Arvados is called Keep, and it is has some similar design elements to Camlistore.

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@cliveb cliveb commented Dec 6, 2017

Camlistore often shorted to Camli. Perkeep shorted is Perk. Familiarity and brevity breeds nicknames perkup, perkdown, perkpush, perkpull. All good. I was thinking about any related negative short names, only one is "perkwalk" (my bad). Came because many male celebrities currently getting in trouble.

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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 7, 2017

@mpl, I've updated the nameserver records for perkeep.org to AWS and set the DNS A records to the same IP as camlistore.org. Should be in live everywhere in 12-24 hours. Want to make sure camweb does the right thing upon getting those Host/SNI values? (both "perkeep.org" and "www.perkeep.org" doing the redirect thing)

I think {www.,}camlistore.org should also redirect to https://perkeep.org/

Make sure you also update the acme autocert allowed hostnames.

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 7, 2017

ACK

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@cliveb cliveb commented Dec 10, 2017

Moved Camlistore to Perkeep on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkeep . Added inline citations and updated talk page asking for removal of missing citations tag by reviewers.

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@broomhall broomhall commented Dec 10, 2017

Probably very low priority, but there's the app on Google Play - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.camlistore - that needs a name change. It would be nice to update too (or temporarily remove?) as it's quite an old version and I think there have been significant bug fixes since it was last published.

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 11, 2017

@broomhall I can't update the official app as i don't have the key to sign it, but jsyk whenever someone asks, I try to update the one at https://storage.googleapis.com/camlistore-release/android/app-debug.apk

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It is not enough for go get to work, as our packages won't have the
right import path comment, but i believe it is the first necessary step.

Issue #981

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@mpl mpl commented Dec 15, 2017

Another one to the rename/migrate list: https://travis-ci.org/camlistore/camlistore

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@chriscroome chriscroome commented Dec 15, 2017

I'd suggest permastore.

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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Jan 30, 2018

@lindner submitted https://camlistore-review.googlesource.com/c/camlistore/+/13887 too, which didn't reference this bug.

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Updates #1056

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A new "put" mode is added to the pk command, so that the "pk put"
command can be used to create and upload blobs.

What this command does is actually just call the previously named
"camput" executable, which is renamed to "pk-put" in this change.

This involves adding a new way to register a mode in cmdmain, when such
a mode is just meant to call an external binary. To emphasize the
distinction, the existing func (to register a sub-command, or a mode) is
renamed from RegisterCommand to RegisterMode, and RegisterCommand is now
the name of the new func/way.

Updates #981
Updates #1056

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Also disable the annoying mouse hover enter/exit behavior. Require
clicks. TODO: more focus events elsewhere should close the menu, but
this is better than before.

Also, rename the PIGGY variable to KEEPY for now, in prep for changing
the logo from a pig to the Keepy the Perkeep Parakeet mascot.

Updates #981

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Also removed misc/buildbot while at it (which contained camput
references) since we don't use it anymore at all.

TODO: the OSX app seems to be relying on finding a binary in ../bin,
which we do not use anymore. This will probably need fixing.

Updates #981

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A couple of related fixes and renames too.

Updates #981
Fixes #1056

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@mpl mpl added this to the 1.0 milestone May 18, 2018
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@mpl mpl commented Jul 3, 2018

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@sergiopantoja sergiopantoja commented Sep 3, 2018

camlistorebot pushed a commit that referenced this issue Sep 3, 2018
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@dlo dlo commented Jun 30, 2020

Should this issue be closed?

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@cliveb cliveb commented Jun 30, 2020

Rename looks set to me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkeep

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@willnorris willnorris commented Aug 6, 2020

Looks like there are still quite a few references that can be cleaned up: https://github.com/perkeep/perkeep/search?q=camlistore

We'll never get it completely to zero, since some would be breaking changes, but I think it's worth keeping this issue open to track cleaning up these remaining references.

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