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{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"hey vtali — did you ever get your answer","date":"2013-01-24T15:39:42.610Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"hey guys. shout if you need my help. i'm working my way though all the github issues at the moment","date":"2013-01-24T15:44:10.002Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"vtali","message":"no I didn't. :)","date":"2013-01-24T16:33:14.004Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"vtali","message":"sorry just saw this","date":"2013-01-24T16:33:16.479Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"owenb","message":"vtali, you're asking a question which has no easy answer at the moment as it's two layers of abstraction on each other","date":"2013-01-24T18:09:16.672Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"vtali","message":"true... i was thinking the same. I'm marrying myself to one of them if I go that route. I was just intrigued by the idea of reactive emberjs stack with socketstream","date":"2013-01-24T19:07:51.945Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"vtali","message":"so is socket stream able to then run the models built with ember in its middleware (server) side code?","date":"2013-01-24T19:08:40.540Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"i'm pretty sure you can only use ember data models on the client - not the server","date":"2013-01-24T19:19:48.798Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"yes but (chiming in), the idea of passing models back and forth without really reconstructing the architecture is intriguing.","date":"2013-01-24T19:21:04.002Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"but to answer your original question, vtali, socketstream has no opinion about models.","date":"2013-01-24T19:21:36.453Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"So really the question your asking isn't about SocketStream, but it's about Mongoose vs. Ember.","date":"2013-01-24T19:21:51.801Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"yes","date":"2013-01-24T19:21:56.939Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"though we need to make models a lot easier in 0.4","date":"2013-01-24T19:22:07.795Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"i'm very aware of that","date":"2013-01-24T19:22:09.524Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"reactive templating is something I really want for my own projects","date":"2013-01-24T19:22:23.058Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"but nothing will be forced down anyones throats","date":"2013-01-24T19:22:47.724Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"how was your trip btw, Owenb?","date":"2013-01-24T19:22:54.389Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"great thanks. switched off from work completely and just had time to think about a things. very relaxing and refreshing :)","date":"2013-01-24T19:23:51.858Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"nice to do that","date":"2013-01-24T19:24:20.828Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"indeed","date":"2013-01-24T19:25:02.884Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"how are you doing?","date":"2013-01-24T19:25:28.977Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"good","date":"2013-01-24T19:25:35.476Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"Hey, totally anecdotal, but I've made acquaintances w/ someone who tried to scale an app in Derby.","date":"2013-01-24T19:25:39.504Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"He got posted on Reddit, and it broke his app...","date":"2013-01-24T19:25:47.800Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"so he fixed it","date":"2013-01-24T19:26:23.622Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"but I thought the lessons he learned valuable — so we're going to get together and I'll pick his brain.","date":"2013-01-24T19:26:47.577Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"http://lifehacker.com/5976476/habitrpg-turns-better-behavior-into-a-game-of-survival","date":"2013-01-24T19:33:01.242Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"It went viral on reddit after being posted here.","date":"2013-01-24T19:33:16.218Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"owenb","message":"ah great. thanks for the link. been a bit out of the loop in the last few weeks, slowly catching up","date":"2013-01-24T20:02:17.078Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"vtali","message":"i wonder at what user count it finally broke","date":"2013-01-24T20:02:18.129Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"owenb you still there?","date":"2013-01-24T21:18:04.635Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"I'm curious about RPC, how it works when, for example, you pass up actual objects.","date":"2013-01-24T21:18:21.011Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"Is it really passing an obj, or is it doing something like json.parse(objString) ???","date":"2013-01-24T21:18:41.807Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"to get the obj?","date":"2013-01-24T21:18:47.271Z","type":"message"}
{"nick":"ArxPoetica","message":"I mean, it works great to pass objects, but I wondered if there was a bit of magic behind the scenes.","date":"2013-01-24T21:19:14.796Z","type":"message"}
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{"nick":"owenb","message":"just JSON.parse indeed. no other way to squeeze an object down the websocket :)","date":"2013-01-24T21:53:57.635Z","type":"message"}
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