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+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: yes, UV_EINVAL. UV_EFAULT was an oversight","date":"2013-01-18T00:00:07.476Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"txdv","message":"so EINVAL?","date":"2013-01-18T00:00:34.943Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"yes","date":"2013-01-18T00:00:39.305Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: i reverted it in v0.8","date":"2013-01-18T00:00:47.854Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"yeah, figured this out","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:01.200Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"b4b750b","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:02.098Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"what do you think about applying this on top of revert of revert","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:09.776Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"seems to be working fine in master","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:14.224Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"I just forgot to backport it","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:17.610Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"will you be around for 1 hour bnoordhuis?","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:21.572Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"\"seems\"","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:22.909Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: no","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:24.952Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"ok, i'll do that address struct by reference commit for that issue tonight","date":"2013-01-18T00:02:00.337Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"indutny: i'm okay with reapplying it as long as it doesn't break the tests again","date":"2013-01-18T00:02:14.722Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"running testes","date":"2013-01-18T00:03:20.325Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"bnoordhuis: wfm","date":"2013-01-18T00:05:43.801Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Fedor Indutny\u000f \u00037v0.8\u000f * \u000231583be\u0002 : tls: follow RFC6125 more stricly * Allow wildcards only in left-most par (+1 more commits) - http://git.io/PXo-Ww","date":"2013-01-18T00:05:53.353Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"is it \"a IPv4\" or \"an IPv4\"","date":"2013-01-18T00:06:23.043Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: in what context","date":"2013-01-18T00:07:28.393Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"\"bind to a IPv4\" or \"bind to an IPv4\", which sentence is correct","date":"2013-01-18T00:07:51.453Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"cmr","message":"neither, but the second is more correct","date":"2013-01-18T00:08:54.469Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"+ if (handle->type != UV_TCP) {","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:27.722Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":" uv__set_artificial_error(handle->loop, UV_EINVAL);","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:27.853Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"+ if (handle->type != UV_UDP) {","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:33.744Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":" uv__set_artificial_error(handle->loop, UV_EFAULT);","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:33.873Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"thsi is mixed up too, bnoordhuis this should be EINVAL too, right?","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:50.946Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"yes it should be","date":"2013-01-18T00:11:06.770Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"ok, should I commit a fix for that in a seperate commit?","date":"2013-01-18T00:12:56.113Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"indutny","message":"ok, time to sleep","date":"2013-01-18T00:17:46.265Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indutny","message":"ttyl","date":"2013-01-18T00:17:46.930Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: yeah, let's put this on the list for 0.12","date":"2013-01-18T00:18:28.319Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"TooTallNate: it's not major, but it's a feature","date":"2013-01-18T00:18:36.799Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"and might break some stuff","date":"2013-01-18T00:18:48.669Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"isaacs: yup yup, no prob","date":"2013-01-18T00:18:49.115Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"TooTallNate","message":"indeed, i don't know if it'll be possible to do in a backwards compat way","date":"2013-01-18T00:19:05.938Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: yes","date":"2013-01-18T00:19:27.718Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"bnoordhuis: you know that EFAULT means bad address, but you say that a garbage address should return EINVAL?","date":"2013-01-18T00:24:45.076Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"txdv: yes. EFAULT means bad _memory_ address","date":"2013-01-18T00:24:59.393Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"aaa","date":"2013-01-18T00:25:06.036Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"EINVAL is just a generic 'bad input' error code","date":"2013-01-18T00:25:06.779Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"EINVAL makes sense then","date":"2013-01-18T00:25:13.445Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"ok ill open up an issue and I hope you gonna pull it fast so I can do the 'address struct by reference' on top of it","date":"2013-01-18T00:25:44.482Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: fwiw I ported the http_simple test to the new lib.","date":"2013-01-18T00:31:36.846Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"kewl","date":"2013-01-18T00:32:16.930Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"and uv_udp_send doesn't even have a check if the handle is valid or not","date":"2013-01-18T00:32:46.910Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"i'm going to open up an issue!!!","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:03.452Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"MI6","message":"\u0002joyent/node:\u0002 \u00033Ben Noordhuis\u000f \u00037master\u000f * \u00028b0f3ce\u0002 : v8: add %p option to --logfile, expands to pid Useful when you are profi - http://git.io/OxieqQ","date":"2013-01-18T00:34:46.139Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"bnoordhuis: so, remember this? https://github.com/joyent/node/issues/3945","date":"2013-01-18T00:35:54.317Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"bnoordhuis: it looks like we have a test that fails when I add the 'emit socket errors on req' bit","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:11.707Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"bnoordhuis: specifically, test/simple/test-http-blank-header.js has a Parser Error from the http parser","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:27.977Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"isaacs: sorry, i'm about to sign off. it's 1.30 am and i have to get up early tomorrow","date":"2013-01-18T00:37:10.035Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"oh, no worries","date":"2013-01-18T00:37:23.236Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"g'nite","date":"2013-01-18T00:37:24.186Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"bnoordhuis","message":"thanks, sleep tight","date":"2013-01-18T00:37:54.689Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: so just realized that i'm testing my v0.8.17 build against the master http_simple bench. are there any changes from streams2 that would affect that bench?","date":"2013-01-18T00:41:07.647Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: we should be able to backport master's benchmark/ folder entirely onto v0.8","date":"2013-01-18T00:53:31.735Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"ah, so... our http_parser does NOT like getting a request body without a content-length","date":"2013-01-18T00:54:09.385Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: ok. so does that mean some tests will need two versions. One using the old stream api, and the others optimized for the new streams2 api?","date":"2013-01-18T00:55:28.369Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: the benchmarks all should work on both, at least, the ones we have so far.","date":"2013-01-18T00:55:55.073Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: it's mostly API compatible","date":"2013-01-18T00:56:11.463Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: ok (and sorry i'm tired) so because you made the new streams2 api compatible with the old one the benchs will work. but would they perform better if they were updated?","date":"2013-01-18T00:57:24.901Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: well, maybe, but that's cheating","date":"2013-01-18T00:58:41.051Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":":)","date":"2013-01-18T00:58:50.011Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: http_simple just uses the very basic http apis. net-pipe.js uses Socket.pipe only","date":"2013-01-18T00:59:23.241Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: hm, ok. guess i'm wondering things like, say, if all the backwards compatibility bits were removed would it improve performance?","date":"2013-01-18T01:00:38.368Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: perhaps. but that's not a luxury we have at this point in time.","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:27.220Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: maybe for 2.0","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:47.040Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"isaacs: yeah I totally understand. just want to prevent undo head bashing figuring this out when the problem isn't actually there. for example","date":"2013-01-18T01:02:20.215Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"when you call a method in the buffer.prototype to the buffers parent, you lose 20% performance because v8 requires a context change.","date":"2013-01-18T01:02:48.037Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"so unless we move the entire buffer class to C that's performance we'll never get back.","date":"2013-01-18T01:03:03.271Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"txdv","message":"I think I am going crazy","date":"2013-01-18T01:03:54.687Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"isaacs","message":"trevnorris: right","date":"2013-01-18T01:05:44.437Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"trevnorris","message":"anyways. i'm out. going to try and port the rest of the existing benchmarks tonight.","date":"2013-01-18T01:07:17.179Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"wavded","message":"can someone tell me if incoming OS notifications (e.g. kqueue, etc.) are handled in a seperate thread or on main one in Node/libuv?","date":"2013-01-18T03:39:55.072Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"wavded","message":"is libuv polling on these OS notifications when it loops? if so is that a seperate thread that's doing that or? and how if so, how often does it poll?","date":"2013-01-18T04:37:10.225Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: it wasn't an actual issue with imagemagick","date":"2013-01-18T00:32:58.231Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"just letting you know","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:05.641Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"mdedetrich: what was the issue?","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:09.877Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"The library wasn't sending the imagemagick command properly","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:26.076Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"yeah, that makes sense","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:31.747Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"it was working on my local comp","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:32.676Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"which makes me think its a version discrepency","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:40.795Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"quite possibly","date":"2013-01-18T00:34:06.782Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"try setting specific version numbers in your package.json","date":"2013-01-18T00:34:14.020Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"i mean in the actual installed imagemagick","date":"2013-01-18T00:35:51.480Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"not the npm library","date":"2013-01-18T00:35:57.015Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"I always set version numbers in package.json","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:05.793Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"oh","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:28.224Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"well we run the latest version that's in pkgsrc","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:39.828Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"if the lib wants a specific version, maybe try seeing which and how recent","date":"2013-01-18T00:36:52.867Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"well its really not an issue, it was just missing out some defaults (I fixed it by putting default values in the resize command used by the library)","date":"2013-01-18T00:38:25.916Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"so all is good now","date":"2013-01-18T00:38:28.655Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"okay, cool","date":"2013-01-18T00:41:44.552Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"as workarounds go that's an easy one","date":"2013-01-18T00:41:49.418Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: uh, im getting the tmp problem","date":"2013-01-18T00:43:38.597Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"again","date":"2013-01-18T00:43:39.437Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"`jitsu apps start`","date":"2013-01-18T00:44:14.938Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/40d9abff9dd3a7a7cd82","date":"2013-01-18T00:47:19.833Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"mdedetrich: okay, just a sec","date":"2013-01-18T00:47:41.150Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"I have to redeploy because the website is currently broken","date":"2013-01-18T00:50:39.633Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"I just ran a `start` and it worked","date":"2013-01-18T00:51:43.987Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"you don't have to cancel the deploy, but those other two drones are gone now","date":"2013-01-18T00:51:51.845Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"we're turning on a service this evening to ensure consistent drone state in the future","date":"2013-01-18T00:52:19.659Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"so all of these problems should be gone, tomorrow","date":"2013-01-18T00:52:28.688Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"nice, cheers","date":"2013-01-18T00:53:56.127Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"also is there a heads up on dedicated plans?","date":"2013-01-18T00:54:21.566Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: I hit a bad drone again","date":"2013-01-18T00:58:59.268Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: I keep on getting that temp error","date":"2013-01-18T00:59:05.332Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"run 'start' when it happens to move your app, I'm making a list and running a fix","date":"2013-01-18T00:59:31.198Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/d268aaa0513f53e4d0a5","date":"2013-01-18T01:00:10.686Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"thats what I am talking about btw","date":"2013-01-18T01:00:14.617Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"its the issue that you closed on github that you said was already fixed","date":"2013-01-18T01:00:27.178Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"it *is* fixed, in the repo, and on most servers","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:07.661Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"you'll never see this again, tomorrow","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:11.259Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"in the meantime you need to run 'start' to move to a new drone","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:17.958Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"and I'm deleting the old ones out from under you","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:23.705Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"just making sure we are on the same page","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:24.796Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"regarding the problem","date":"2013-01-18T01:01:29.856Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"AvianFlu: have you guys implemented parallel upload to multiple drones?","date":"2013-01-18T01:03:52.727Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"yes, but it's still in staging","date":"2013-01-18T01:04:36.530Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"bbl","date":"2013-01-18T01:04:39.658Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"mdedetrich: if you see the temp enviroment variable error that just means there are a few drones not patched, as AvianFlu said most of the drones are fixed, its just that as people redeploy thier apps with these old drones they then become free","date":"2013-01-18T01:04:50.447Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"It sounded like by tonight we will instal the feature that grabs drones as they are released then will check them for any issues/bugs","date":"2013-01-18T01:06:00.321Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"I'm really looking forward to that, since it means no more inconsitant drones","date":"2013-01-18T01:06:51.371Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"and more happy people","date":"2013-01-18T01:07:19.164Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"yeah I am looking forward to it as well","date":"2013-01-18T01:08:01.574Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"blakmatrix: curiously how do drones become bad?","date":"2013-01-18T01:14:26.875Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"hector","message":"On Monday night and Tuesday morning I got the following error several times on my site hosted at nodejitsu: An error has occurred: {\"code\":\"ECONNREFUSED\",\"errno\":\"ECONNREFUSED\",\"syscall\":\"connect\"}","date":"2013-01-18T01:15:42.599Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"Any ideas what causes that? ","date":"2013-01-18T01:15:48.541Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"mdedetrich: generally on creation... usually we catch them and clean them all up, but sometimes they get taken up by an app that doesnt cause the problem to arise","date":"2013-01-18T01:17:14.371Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"hector: what is your username/appname","date":"2013-01-18T01:17:25.274Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"username: hectorcorrea","date":"2013-01-18T01:17:32.792Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"same name for the app ","date":"2013-01-18T01:17:40.333Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"how long ago was this happening hector?","date":"2013-01-18T01:22:06.074Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"Tuesday morning (it happened several times, for 5-10 minutes long)","date":"2013-01-18T01:22:52.228Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"and then the site will just respond OK.","date":"2013-01-18T01:23:19.963Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"do you conect to a DB","date":"2013-01-18T01:23:55.314Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"no, I actually store the data for this site in local text files.","date":"2013-01-18T01:24:11.120Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"hector","message":"There is of course nothing in my app logs for this error since I don't think it made it to my app.","date":"2013-01-18T01:34:14.109Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"hector: yeah i've been looking too","date":"2013-01-18T01:34:28.783Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"I don't see anything since tuesday","date":"2013-01-18T01:34:48.607Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"yeah...I think the issue went away Tuesday afternoon and I have NOT seen it since.","date":"2013-01-18T01:35:27.197Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"hector","message":"but I am cuorious on how to troubleshoot it if/when it happens again.","date":"2013-01-18T01:35:58.164Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"I do remeber alex.mongo service being down around that time I dont see how tht would have affected our app though","date":"2013-01-18T01:36:20.272Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"So am I correct that this is something that happens before it hits my app?","date":"2013-01-18T01:36:59.293Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"(correct TO THINK...)","date":"2013-01-18T01:37:17.833Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"hector: if you see it again let us know right away... apart from that see if there is anythign in your app logs as usual","date":"2013-01-18T01:38:09.571Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"ok. will do. thanks.","date":"2013-01-18T01:38:28.917Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"its possible it could have happened before it go tto your app, but it could have also been your app crashing and restarting","date":"2013-01-18T01:39:28.998Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"hector","message":"got it.","date":"2013-01-18T01:39:50.045Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"sam_","message":"how to backup the db?","date":"2013-01-18T01:42:08.652Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"sam_: what db ?","date":"2013-01-18T01:43:34.718Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"sam_","message":"mongo","date":"2013-01-18T01:43:53.532Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"sam_: there is http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/reference/mongodump/","date":"2013-01-18T01:44:33.806Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"some one else was having that issue earlier, even though they could connect with mongo","date":"2013-01-18T01:51:48.533Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"blakmatrix","message":"nathan7: ^ you still around?","date":"2013-01-18T01:51:59.103Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"teslan","message":"so after a year of displaying that \"These plans will be available for purchase in the next month.\" when are you going live ?","date":"2013-01-18T02:35:55.590Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"Do you guts have anything to point me to as it related to session management with couchdb?","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:13.108Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"*relates","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:23.498Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"*and guys -- sorry mobile.","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:37.423Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"xyxne","new_nick":"Nexxy","date":"2013-01-18T02:41:09.008Z","type":"nick"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"moreoutput: are you using a library or just pure couch?","date":"2013-01-18T02:44:08.592Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"teslan","message":"<julian_duque> is bandwidth \"unlimited\" like on joyent or ?","date":"2013-01-18T02:44:59.994Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"teslan: our individual drones has 1 TB of bandwith, you can refer to the use policy http://legal.nodejitsu.com/acceptable-use-policy","date":"2013-01-18T02:45:56.451Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"but i don't have information about the business plans yet","date":"2013-01-18T02:46:06.028Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"teslan","message":"<julian_duque> thanks","date":"2013-01-18T02:49:08.551Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"teslan: and the business plans will be announced soon ;)","date":"2013-01-18T02:49:55.400Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"teslan","message":"yeah - \"next month\"","date":"2013-01-18T02:50:29.593Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"teslan","message":"lol","date":"2013-01-18T02:50:35.361Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"since node.js seems to be afk","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:31.226Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"I am trying to stream a request into a file, and fire an event when its done (using the request library)","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:47.390Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"here is my code","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:49.926Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"https://gist.github.com/f99b5d826d1012f23d80","date":"2013-01-18T02:52:05.419Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"however none of the events appear to be firing","date":"2013-01-18T02:52:13.343Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"teslan: hehe, it worth the waiting","date":"2013-01-18T02:52:37.493Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"anyone?","date":"2013-01-18T02:53:01.805Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"Im using cradle","date":"2013-01-18T02:54:33.135Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"moreoutput: the .end() should be outsine the 'end' event no?","date":"2013-01-18T02:57:34.558Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"s/outsine/outside","date":"2013-01-18T02:57:40.145Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"julian_duque: you lost me, soory, .end()?","date":"2013-01-18T03:03:08.756Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"wow","date":"2013-01-18T03:04:10.198Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"its 46 degrees celcious here","date":"2013-01-18T03:04:14.781Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"moreoutput: sorry, that message is for mdedetrich, autocomplete issues ","date":"2013-01-18T03:04:57.368Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"thats 111 degrees for all those americans out there","date":"2013-01-18T03:05:07.368Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"mdedetrich: where do you live again?","date":"2013-01-18T03:05:45.351Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"sydney","date":"2013-01-18T03:05:53.026Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"mmalecki","message":"brb jumping on a plane","date":"2013-01-18T03:06:01.616Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"you like the feeling of being in an oven?","date":"2013-01-18T03:06:15.867Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"I guess its not bad if miranda kerr also happens to be ontop of you","date":"2013-01-18T03:07:35.008Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mdedetrich","message":"but w/e","date":"2013-01-18T03:07:36.063Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"lol","date":"2013-01-18T03:07:56.670Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"anyone know how to get the security parameters/array from a couchdb database?","date":"2013-01-18T05:00:00.715Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"moreoutput: did you search what you looking for in the docs? maybe http://guide.couchdb.org/draft/security.html could help","date":"2013-01-18T05:05:03.212Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"moreoutput","message":"Yes I found it, earlier actually -- but i didn't get it. I just needed to create a special doc. I was assuming it was something I needed to call for and update.","date":"2013-01-18T05:21:25.521Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"indexzero: you around? got a forever question for you","date":"2013-01-18T05:42:39.364Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indexzero","message":"defunctzombie: sure, what's up","date":"2013-01-18T05:42:49.208Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"if I start an instance, forever usually assigns some random id","date":"2013-01-18T05:43:15.233Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is it possible for me to give it a name I want it to use?","date":"2013-01-18T05:43:23.677Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indexzero","message":"defunctzombie: Let me check, there may be a CLI option for it","date":"2013-01-18T05:44:08.866Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I have a script which is potentially leaky and I just restart it every so often, but to do that I need to know the name","date":"2013-01-18T05:44:12.967Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I could not find a CLI option for it","date":"2013-01-18T05:44:52.499Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"c4milo","message":"oh hai","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:03.390Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"oh hai c4milo ","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:12.736Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indexzero","message":"defunctzombie: Yeah, it's --uid ","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:12.888Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indexzero","message":"it's just not in the CLI help","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:18.585Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ah","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:24.069Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ok, cool, at least it exists","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:30.084Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I will try it out! thanks","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:36.144Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"indexzero","message":"https://github.com/nodejitsu/forever/blob/master/lib/forever/cli.js#L193","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:41.738Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jamesdean77","message":"Question: how do you download your files from nujitsu after moving to a new server ?","date":"2013-01-18T06:00:12.539Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"you can download the snapshot with `jitsu snapshots fetch`","date":"2013-01-18T06:01:27.581Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jamesdean77","message":"snapshot is created when a nodejitsu app stops ? Thanks julian_duque ","date":"2013-01-18T06:03:02.397Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"julian_duque","message":"jamesdean77: they are created when deploy, you can see the active and stopped (previous versions) of your app","date":"2013-01-18T06:04:19.091Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jamesdean77","message":"Boom! thanks","date":"2013-01-18T06:04:46.131Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"hello AvianFlu ","date":"2013-01-18T07:31:53.248Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"OMG HI","date":"2013-01-18T07:32:22.993Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"how goes","date":"2013-01-18T07:32:50.671Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"yawnt","message":"yo josh :D","date":"2013-01-18T07:33:13.381Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":":)","date":"2013-01-18T07:34:09.928Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I'm really tired XD","date":"2013-01-18T07:34:17.113Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"AvianFlu","message":"jesusabdullah: SO STOP SPREADING SO MUCH CHAOS AND DESTRUCTION THEN","date":"2013-01-18T07:43:07.834Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"nathan7","message":"Hey earthlings","date":"2013-01-18T07:44:14.869Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"I, umm","date":"2013-01-18T07:44:53.731Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jesusabdullah","message":"am not much for chaos/destruction","date":"2013-01-18T07:45:03.437Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"yawnt","message":"SURE YOU ARE","date":"2013-01-18T07:46:18.759Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"alexove","message":"hello","date":"2013-01-18T02:29:16.455Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"alexove","message":"i'm have a problems installing openshift","date":"2013-01-18T02:29:55.520Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"alexove","message":"i'm using the instructions on this page","date":"2013-01-18T02:30:22.839Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"alexove","message":"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenShift_Origin_F18","date":"2013-01-18T02:30:29.029Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"alexove","message":"i get this error when i try to execute this command \"systemctl enable openshift-broker\"","date":"2013-01-18T02:32:17.449Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"alexove","message":"\"failed to issue method call: No such file or directory\"","date":"2013-01-18T02:32:38.577Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"alexove","message":"i will be here tomorrow","date":"2013-01-18T03:09:40.729Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"alexove","message":"greetings to all","date":"2013-01-18T03:10:02.200Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jjjjohnnny","message":"is there a repo of browserifiable front end modules yet?","date":"2013-01-18T00:00:27.645Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"that would be a big repo","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:14.390Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"raynos has a gist or something","date":"2013-01-18T00:01:18.254Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"yay signups","date":"2013-01-18T00:08:14.786Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"mikolalysenko: there were people working on node kalman filters at a drone meetup i went to recently, not sure if they ever published it though","date":"2013-01-18T00:08:16.826Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"guybrush_: i dont do prediction yet, gonna hack on that soon","date":"2013-01-18T00:08:33.875Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"guybrush_: i just lerp server updates","date":"2013-01-18T00:08:47.201Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"jjjjohnnny: all these repos have testling tests which is a really good indicator that they work with browserify http://ci.testling.com/commits.json","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:15.541Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"the commits.json data is fed into this: http://browserify.org/search","date":"2013-01-18T00:09:40.569Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"the best way to solve this problem is to prove that modules work in browsers by writing tests demonstrating as much!","date":"2013-01-18T00:10:03.250Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"mbalho: gotcha","date":"2013-01-18T00:10:28.786Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: heres an interesting writeup, check out the 1.2.3.4 https://sites.google.com/site/letsmakeavoxelengine/home/collision-detection","date":"2013-01-18T00:11:55.229Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"mbalho: oh sweet","date":"2013-01-18T00:14:05.014Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"need a reusable module for this stuff","date":"2013-01-18T00:14:21.437Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"with independent tests","date":"2013-01-18T00:14:26.027Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"yea","date":"2013-01-18T00:14:40.988Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4694759/collision-detection-by-sliding-against-a-plane-in-xna","date":"2013-01-18T00:15:35.039Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"i think the tile based thing i'm working on might prove useful","date":"2013-01-18T00:18:25.513Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"(basically, walk each axis separately in the direction of movement, walking the other two axises in a predetermined fashion)","date":"2013-01-18T00:19:39.063Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"then if there's a collision on an axis, modify the vector on that axis","date":"2013-01-18T00:20:04.426Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"then walk the other axises","date":"2013-01-18T00:20:10.286Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"the biggest part is walking the other two access in a reliably \"clockwise\" fashion","date":"2013-01-18T00:20:40.195Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"i just want collisions to be solved","date":"2013-01-18T00:21:08.056Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":":D","date":"2013-01-18T00:21:08.877Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"for real","date":"2013-01-18T00:21:24.600Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"bonus points, if this collide-3d module works it'd be really easy to plop it into any number of other minecraft-ish simulations","date":"2013-01-18T00:21:43.148Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"yea","date":"2013-01-18T00:22:17.488Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"plop","date":"2013-01-18T00:31:23.099Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jjjjohnnny","message":"neat","date":"2013-01-18T00:33:07.698Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"oooh","date":"2013-01-18T00:38:58.020Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"game.controls.velocity isn't in world space yet","date":"2013-01-18T00:39:32.165Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"mbalho: is there a worldspace version of the velocity vector?","date":"2013-01-18T00:39:44.423Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"or is there a way to get that vector?","date":"2013-01-18T00:40:42.942Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"chrisdickinson: hmm i dunno","date":"2013-01-18T00:41:53.094Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"chrisdickinson: you could pass it through Chunker.prototype.voxelVector maybe","date":"2013-01-18T00:42:17.313Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"Hey folks. Where's a good place I can discuss philosophy with other programming geeks like us?","date":"2013-01-18T00:43:17.054Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"your local hackerspace","date":"2013-01-18T00:43:45.093Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"you mean I have to leave my house?? :(","date":"2013-01-18T00:44:14.446Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"wooo it works but really slows down","date":"2013-01-18T00:55:16.493Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"lol","date":"2013-01-18T00:56:01.002Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"like it slides around boxes and everything","date":"2013-01-18T00:56:17.719Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"but the timestep is wrong, somehow","date":"2013-01-18T00:56:23.395Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"mbalho: i'll be online later and put up a demo","date":"2013-01-18T00:57:16.164Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"chrisdickinson: cool!!","date":"2013-01-18T00:57:27.204Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"it's kind of ugly since i need to get a world vec then reapply it to the player","date":"2013-01-18T00:59:51.829Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"ryanseddon","message":"can anyone help me, have I done anything wrong to get testling-ci working https://github.com/ryanseddon/H5F/commit/975e8fbfe524e88160c53f2c912acc92b5adae0f","date":"2013-01-18T01:00:52.204Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"ryanseddon: we were getting a bug pushing your repo with github-push-receive :/","date":"2013-01-18T01:02:26.443Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"ryanseddon","message":"oh so i didn't do anything wrong or something i did made it fail?","date":"2013-01-18T01:03:59.150Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it's a bug on our end we haven't figured out yet","date":"2013-01-18T01:04:19.578Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"ryanseddon","message":"substack: ok cool so everything in my commit looks good to you otherwise?","date":"2013-01-18T01:04:46.539Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"well not sure yet because of the bug","date":"2013-01-18T01:05:04.328Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"ryanseddon","message":"right, well i'","date":"2013-01-18T01:05:40.792Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"ryanseddon","message":"right, well i'll be lurking so let me know if I need to change anything","date":"2013-01-18T01:05:49.274Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"mbalho: here's an idea for voxel.js - mmo (or p2p mmo) works by clients (or web-rtc'd peers) connecting their meta-voxel worlds through adjacency in two dimensions","date":"2013-01-18T01:12:27.244Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"how much would you say is left to build before that is feasible?","date":"2013-01-18T01:13:15.689Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"mbalhbo: ?","date":"2013-01-18T01:18:51.948Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"jjjjohnny: https://gist.github.com/4350728","date":"2013-01-18T01:19:47.303Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"please mention any extra modules to be added in a comment","date":"2013-01-18T01:22:09.179Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"Raynos: these lists are awesome by the way, not enough people publish them - thanks!","date":"2013-01-18T01:23:19.378Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"jez0990_","message":"chrisdickinson: how did the dates on your neversaw.us blog manage to get two years out of sync?!","date":"2013-01-18T01:42:40.510Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"Raynos: do you have a module for taking a readable/writable stream and only making it writable?","date":"2013-01-18T01:57:23.472Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"substack: no","date":"2013-01-18T02:35:39.177Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"substack: but (stream.read = null && stream.pipe = null) should work","date":"2013-01-18T02:36:00.373Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"substack, mbalho: whats this event tongiht at 8pm?","date":"2013-01-18T02:36:16.441Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"Raynos: http://www.5mof.net/","date":"2013-01-18T02:36:36.922Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"substack: actually `return WriteStream(stream.write, stream.end)` might work","date":"2013-01-18T02:36:41.262Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"substack `npm docs write-stream`","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:25.509Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"jez0990_: i dont know enough about webrtc to make it happen but i am using scuttlebutt for world data sync in the voxel-server demo","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:29.183Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"jez0990_: so if you can get scuttlebutt to work over webrtc it can happen","date":"2013-01-18T02:38:37.294Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"mbalho, jez0990_: https://github.com/Raynos/painter/blob/master/examples/paint/index.js#L47","date":"2013-01-18T02:39:07.170Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"that's not real webrtc though. That's emulated webrtc","date":"2013-01-18T02:39:41.490Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"yea i want real webrtc","date":"2013-01-18T02:40:02.343Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"mbalho: real webrtc is nightly builds of firefox / chrome and it's UDP and there's no firefox - chrome interop","date":"2013-01-18T02:42:18.537Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"The nice thing about the emulate webrtc is that it has the same API","date":"2013-01-18T02:42:45.587Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"once chrome beta channel has data channels ill make it work","date":"2013-01-18T02:42:59.174Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"ah","date":"2013-01-18T02:43:42.893Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"https://github.com/Raynos/peer-connection-shim <- that's a RTCPeerConnection object which uses relays","date":"2013-01-18T02:44:56.274Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"substack, is glog broken currently? i get an error when i push on glog/index.js:53 TypeError: Object blog.git has no method 'once'","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:22.212Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"though didnt read any code yet or looked deeper","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:33.400Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it's running browserify.org","date":"2013-01-18T02:51:43.131Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"guybrush_: maybe the pushover version is out of sync?","date":"2013-01-18T03:05:31.541Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"0.1.6","date":"2013-01-18T03:06:12.295Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"oh i think npm i pushover@latest fixed it","date":"2013-01-18T03:07:36.965Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"jez0990_: it's statically generated, and i haven't paid any attention to it :)","date":"2013-01-18T03:10:26.498Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"jjjjohnnny: rec -t s16 -","date":"2013-01-18T03:14:40.595Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"ah sweeeet yes glog is cool","date":"2013-01-18T03:16:18.210Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"pretty much best blogging-thing ever","date":"2013-01-18T03:16:52.116Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"though i think this has to be upgraded https://github.com/substack/glog/blob/master/package.json#L10","date":"2013-01-18T03:17:57.907Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it should install the latest pushover on a fresh install","date":"2013-01-18T03:20:05.574Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"mbalho: you around?","date":"2013-01-18T03:23:21.547Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"mbalho: http://neversaw.us/voxel/ so, be careful around seams (wherever voxel chunks are joined), they're still wonky","date":"2013-01-18T03:28:45.408Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"jump physics are a bit jerky","date":"2013-01-18T03:28:50.357Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"but the voxel collisions seem pretty solid otherwise","date":"2013-01-18T03:29:00.612Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"welp maybe not lol.","date":"2013-01-18T03:29:39.457Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"still a few bugs :D","date":"2013-01-18T03:30:05.747Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"chrisdickinson: a bit fast","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:14.476Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"yeah","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:26.660Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"chrisdickinson: whoa is that your collision detection?","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:34.813Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","action":"nods","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:38.712Z","type":"action"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"it's definitely buggy","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:45.991Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"that is so good","date":"2013-01-18T03:36:48.371Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"soooo much better than my crappy thing","date":"2013-01-18T03:37:14.648Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"it's basically https://github.com/chrisdickinson/collide-2d-tilemap in 3d","date":"2013-01-18T03:37:22.938Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"sweet","date":"2013-01-18T03:37:39.925Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"also thanks!","date":"2013-01-18T03:37:45.826Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"there are definitely some cases that are… very very broken","date":"2013-01-18T03:37:57.943Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"seams, and some weirdness with being in tight spaces","date":"2013-01-18T03:38:05.522Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"feels like the field of view is too narrow","date":"2013-01-18T03:38:15.080Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"oh and the camera is on the floor","date":"2013-01-18T03:38:27.876Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"not at eye-level","date":"2013-01-18T03:38:33.369Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"the position should be up at 1.5 block units or so","date":"2013-01-18T03:38:44.265Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"for the player camera I mean","date":"2013-01-18T03:39:04.250Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"that's the biggest reason why it feels weird I think","date":"2013-01-18T03:39:13.128Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"ah","date":"2013-01-18T03:39:13.547Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"lemme check in firefox really quick","date":"2013-01-18T03:39:24.175Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"I'm getting teleported a strange distance away when I fall in a hole","date":"2013-01-18T03:40:20.019Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"yeah","date":"2013-01-18T03:40:22.866Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"that's the biggest issue","date":"2013-01-18T03:40:26.488Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"well, aside from seams","date":"2013-01-18T03:40:33.674Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: your resolve module, the basedir that I give it, what is that meant to be? do I need to have node_modules folder at that location?","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:01.191Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"or up from that location?","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:04.804Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"i'll push up the changes to a fork and publish the modules","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:09.818Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"(collide-3d-tilemap and aabb-3d)","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:18.326Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: the basedir is just the directory from which you want the path resolution algorithm to start","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:29.582Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"because require.resolve() is always in the __dirname","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:37.568Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"gotcha, and it will go up from there right?","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:43.532Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"so you can't pass a dirname as an argument","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:47.046Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: exactly","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:51.597Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"k, thx","date":"2013-01-18T03:41:55.221Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"cause I am trying to resolve something based on that notion","date":"2013-01-18T03:42:18.465Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"but it can't seem to find it","date":"2013-01-18T03:42:22.053Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"oh","date":"2013-01-18T03:42:33.706Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"fucking relative paths","date":"2013-01-18T03:42:37.980Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"im about to give a talk on voxeljs then ill look at collisions","date":"2013-01-18T03:49:12.015Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"mbalho: I started a portal gun repo and once I get this tap-parser thing working I'll hack on it a little more","date":"2013-01-18T03:50:15.348Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"substack: how are you implementing physics on your end?","date":"2013-01-18T03:52:34.183Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"Raynos: https://github.com/shtylman/npm-css/blob/master/index.js","date":"2013-01-18T03:57:30.244Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"yes, I know I changed quite a bit of stuff, but I made tests actually start working :)","date":"2013-01-18T03:57:49.567Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"chrisdickinson: seeing if points along a rectangular prism are inside the geometry","date":"2013-01-18T03:57:51.664Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and figured this could be some sort of starting point","date":"2013-01-18T03:57:59.479Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","action":"nods","date":"2013-01-18T03:58:08.405Z","type":"action"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"chrisdickinson: you should be able to just pos.y -= self.cubeSize * 1.5 to boost the player height up enough","date":"2013-01-18T03:58:42.567Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"Raynos: it is all sync currently (too many parts of this are sync right now to be async efficiently)","date":"2013-01-18T03:59:04.962Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":":p","date":"2013-01-18T04:00:39.802Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"you changed the code","date":"2013-01-18T04:00:45.193Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"from a complex chain","date":"2013-01-18T04:00:48.189Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"Raynos","message":"to a single function","date":"2013-01-18T04:00:50.984Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"mbalho","message":"substack: hellllll yeaaaaa portals!!","date":"2013-01-18T04:01:10.617Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"fotoverite","message":"awesome dominictarr","date":"2013-01-18T04:01:38.418Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"https://github.com/chrisdickinson/aabb-3d","date":"2013-01-18T04:04:36.288Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"Raynos: yes","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:11.200Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"you are correct in that I made the code simpler :p","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:20.354Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"substack: http://npm.im/aabb-3d and https://npmjs.org/package/collide-3d-tilemap","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:31.018Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and actually work","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:41.230Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":":D","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:42.725Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"hooray!","date":"2013-01-18T04:08:49.936Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"chrisdickinson: planning on ripping out the collision detection in voxel-engine?","date":"2013-01-18T04:09:36.485Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"ideally","date":"2013-01-18T04:09:43.122Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"at least for colliding with the voxel map itself!","date":"2013-01-18T04:11:11.267Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"chrisdickinson","message":"object-object collisions could be handled by more traditional aabb-aabb collisions","date":"2013-01-18T04:11:25.347Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"Raynos: let me know what you think of the changes and such, ideally I am good with that package name and like the approach","date":"2013-01-18T04:19:03.674Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"Raynos, defunctzombie: tape@0.2.0 now has an `at` field https://gist.github.com/4562523#file-gistfile1-txt-L15","date":"2013-01-18T05:19:46.652Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: is that where the assert was called from that failed?","date":"2013-01-18T05:20:46.389Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"yes","date":"2013-01-18T05:21:03.934Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: does it also capture in the browser? or is this node side?","date":"2013-01-18T05:21:39.580Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it should work in chrome and maybe ff","date":"2013-01-18T05:22:19.200Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it just parses the err.stack from a new Error","date":"2013-01-18T05:22:35.437Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ah","date":"2013-01-18T05:22:43.365Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"for the first file not in __dirname","date":"2013-01-18T05:22:43.665Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it'll just skip setting this in browsers that don't have err.stack","date":"2013-01-18T05:23:06.713Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"substack: so with glog every article is a tag with 1 file? or can i push multiple files and `glog publiish file` is just the entry-file?","date":"2013-01-18T05:23:26.391Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"guybrush_: glog publish just creates tags","date":"2013-01-18T05:24:03.787Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"im pretty sleepy and lazy so i just ask instead of reading the code :P","date":"2013-01-18T05:24:05.421Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it doesn't push","date":"2013-01-18T05:24:14.130Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"ahhh i see","date":"2013-01-18T05:24:22.957Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"so i just push everything, like folders pictures and stuff","date":"2013-01-18T05:24:37.131Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"and than i glog publish which creates tags","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:09.371Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"sure","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:18.067Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"niiice","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:22.371Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: still not sure I buy into the whole always output tap stuff :/ kinda think the runner should just do whatever it wants and output tap if it wants","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:30.264Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"I thought about the notion of plan and such","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:37.944Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"git-database for blogs is just awesome","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:44.913Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"guybrush_: I'm not sure if ecstatic serves the static content from the git repo yet though for pictures","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:47.883Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"you might need to hack that in and send me a pull request","date":"2013-01-18T05:25:56.190Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"well i can hack arround that anyway","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:02.066Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"but not sure it is really that important :/","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:04.450Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"sure","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:12.584Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: sure but then TAP gets neglected","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:37.018Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"you can just have any assertion whatever throw in a test (and since tests are run in series) you know waht test just failed","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:40.023Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"and then tooling because crappier","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:45.494Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"that's what happened in mocha","date":"2013-01-18T05:26:49.814Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"I would rather just have only TAP so it gets first-class treatment","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:01.168Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"s/because/becomes/","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:13.479Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: throwing is really bad for browser tests","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:28.154Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"is it? you can just do onerror right?","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:38.160Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"don't throw please","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:39.324Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: that is pretty unreliable","date":"2013-01-18T05:27:46.736Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ah, ok, fair enough. I was under the impression it was reliable","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:00.199Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"throwing too often breaks the transport layer to get the data out of browsers","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:04.666Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"transport layer?","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:18.530Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"woah that sucks","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:18.662Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"so the browsers just go completely dark","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:26.977Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"guybrush_","message":"just shim assert right?","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:29.625Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"because throwing stops the javascript execution context","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:41.608Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"that is unfortunate indeed :(","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:41.855Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"you can do it in node because you get an exit code","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:49.743Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"but there is no such thing in browsers","date":"2013-01-18T05:28:54.618Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"just don't assert things and you'll be a lot better off","date":"2013-01-18T05:29:13.047Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"and no domains either to try and handle that issue :(","date":"2013-01-18T05:29:14.210Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"yes","date":"2013-01-18T05:29:18.849Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"another problem with not treating TAP as first-class is that your tests won't map to TAP output 1:1","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:14.725Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"so do some browsers just not continue script execution after anything throws?","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:18.522Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"that is ghetto, but understandable from their standpoint I guess","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:39.697Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"they just want to stop the script","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:48.881Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"so your tooling that consumes tap won't necessarily pick up on all the things that tap is designed to prevent","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:49.012Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"certain classes of false positives","date":"2013-01-18T05:30:55.698Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: pretty much that's the case","date":"2013-01-18T05:31:10.835Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it's really unpredictable what will happen","date":"2013-01-18T05:31:17.007Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"even if you have an onerror handler","date":"2013-01-18T05:31:21.695Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it's really context-dependent on what the code exactly does","date":"2013-01-18T05:31:32.156Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"gotcha","date":"2013-01-18T05:32:36.167Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"cool, disabling css acceleration seems to have fixed some of my browsing woes ever since changing some chrome flags to get webgl working","date":"2013-01-18T05:33:06.585Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: does tape do test timeouts or global var leak detection?","date":"2013-01-18T05:39:44.362Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"defunctzombie: no","date":"2013-01-18T05:45:52.188Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"out of scope I think","date":"2013-01-18T05:46:20.001Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"hard to say, I can see both sides of it","date":"2013-01-18T05:47:40.499Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"ideally static analysis can catch the common leaks","date":"2013-01-18T05:47:50.874Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"but that might not be true in some instances","date":"2013-01-18T05:48:08.549Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"timeouts I can also see both ways since the runner is in a good position to provide a nice interface for that","date":"2013-01-18T05:48:42.345Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"for me, testing is about ensuring my program is behaving properly","date":"2013-01-18T05:50:25.912Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"use a different tool for those","date":"2013-01-18T05:50:28.820Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"generally that means not leaky and runs within certain time constraints as side effects","date":"2013-01-18T05:50:54.457Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"a runner program like `tap` should care about timeouts","date":"2013-01-18T05:50:58.918Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"and another tool entirely should concern itself with detecting global leaks","date":"2013-01-18T05:51:15.027Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"tape does not act as a runner? just the harness?","date":"2013-01-18T05:51:33.454Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"it doesn't come with a tool for doing any sort of running?","date":"2013-01-18T05:51:42.169Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"tape only outputs TAP data to console.log()","date":"2013-01-18T05:51:54.808Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"that is its job","date":"2013-01-18T05:51:56.865Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"it does some rudimentary other kinds of things but I would like to limit the scope of those activities","date":"2013-01-18T05:52:43.929Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"how does that interface with tap then?","date":"2013-01-18T05:53:57.418Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"if tape is defining the test function","date":"2013-01-18T05:54:04.779Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"it is controlling how the test are run I presume","date":"2013-01-18T05:54:12.951Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"they interface via process.stdout","date":"2013-01-18T05:55:50.644Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"if you use `tap` to run your tests","date":"2013-01-18T05:56:11.217Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"so tap will just exit for long running tests and test timeout conditions (or a tool like tap) ?","date":"2013-01-18T05:57:06.453Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"if tape is doing the output, would I ever see test timings even","date":"2013-01-18T05:57:24.154Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"see test timings?","date":"2013-01-18T06:03:15.269Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"even if the runner did nothing you would see that your test suite hung at a certain point in its output","date":"2013-01-18T06:03:44.131Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"substack","message":"I would think that should be sufficient for most cases","date":"2013-01-18T06:03:57.038Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"yea, that is true, could still be nice to have test runtime info in tap output for tracking","date":"2013-01-18T06:11:16.174Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"some fancy places track runtime of tests","date":"2013-01-18T06:11:41.311Z","type":"message"}
+{"nick":"defunctzombie","message":"substack: any particular reason you don't provide the full stacktrace and just provide 'at' ?","date":"2013-01-18T06:13:35.605Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"substack","message":"the whole stack trace has test harness internals in it","date":"2013-01-18T06:19:28.204Z","type":"message"}
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+{"nick":"st_luke","message":"testing leveldb with gigantic disjoint-sets to see how fast it is","date":"2013-01-18T06:54:20.453Z","type":"message"}
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