diff --git a/src/core/Baggy.pm b/src/core/Baggy.pm
index 44e1b2b5eba..e2379b5ecf8 100644
--- a/src/core/Baggy.pm
+++ b/src/core/Baggy.pm
@@ -18,13 +18,7 @@ my role Baggy does QuantHash {
 
     method hash(Baggy:D: --> Hash) { %!elems.values.hash }
 
-    multi method new(Baggy: \value) {
-      nqp::iscont(value) || nqp::not_i(nqp::istype(value, Iterable))
-        ?? self!new([value]) 
-        !! self!new([|value])
-    }
-    multi method new(Baggy: **@args) { self!new(@args) }
-    method !new(@args) {
+    multi method new(Baggy: +@args) {
         my %e;
         # need explicit signature because of #119609
         -> $_ { (%e{$_.WHICH} //= ($_ => my $ = 0)).value++ } for @args;
diff --git a/src/core/Setty.pm b/src/core/Setty.pm
index 48d6eeaa7db..67682aa5213 100644
--- a/src/core/Setty.pm
+++ b/src/core/Setty.pm
@@ -20,13 +20,7 @@ my role Setty does QuantHash {
         %e;
     }
 
-    multi method new(Setty: \value) {
-      nqp::iscont(value) || nqp::not_i(nqp::istype(value, Iterable))
-        ?? self!new([value])
-        !! self!new([|value])
-    }
-    multi method new(Setty: **@args) { self!new(@args) }
-    method !new(@args) {
+    multi method new(Setty: +@args) {
         my %e;
         %e{$_.WHICH} = $_ for @args;
         self.bless(:elems(%e))