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MPEG-2 Patents Expired #939

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irlcatgirl opened this issue Feb 14, 2018 · 11 comments
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MPEG-2 Patents Expired #939

irlcatgirl opened this issue Feb 14, 2018 · 11 comments

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@irlcatgirl irlcatgirl commented Feb 14, 2018

The patent for MPEG-2 has expired, the firmware should be updated where a license key is no longer required to use the decoder.

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@F5OEO F5OEO commented Feb 15, 2018

MPEG-2 encoder should be also very usefull...Surely a firmware update to avoid requiring a licence.

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@irlcatgirl irlcatgirl commented Feb 15, 2018

@F5OEO Exactly or at a worst case scenario where Rpis connect to an API which issues the CPU specific license key freebie. I'm not sure how ingrained the need for a license is in the firmware / ROM of whatever chip handles it. I'm sure someone will handle this and it's looking like people agree.

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@F5OEO F5OEO commented Feb 15, 2018

Ping to @popcornmix or @6by9 to inspect implementation , but surely need some feeback from headoffice to remove licencing...Hope that it takes not too long to move on !

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@irlcatgirl irlcatgirl commented Feb 15, 2018

@F5OEO Good luck and thanks for looking into this for us :-)

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@wkeenan wkeenan commented Feb 15, 2018

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@irlcatgirl irlcatgirl commented Feb 15, 2018

The question about the license is if Raspberry Pi Foundation agreed to charge even after the patents expired, on a side note would any court enforce requiring the Raspberry PI Foundation to pay the license fees without a patent, other than for violating a contractual agreement.

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@6by9 6by9 commented Feb 15, 2018

There's no point in pinging me as I'm not involved in the commercial negotiations with MPEG-LA. Without guidance from those who are (probably involving lawyers too), I'm not going to be making any changes.

There are still patents valid in the Philippines and Malaysia, and seeing as Raspberry Pis are sold in those jurisdictions that may still be an issue. There's no simple geographical lock to work around that.

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@deborah-c deborah-c commented Feb 15, 2018

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@WayneKeenan WayneKeenan commented Feb 16, 2018

@deborah-c do you realise that commercial operation systems absorb that cost for you?

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@deborah-c deborah-c commented Feb 16, 2018

I've been involved in video on demand systems since the early trials in the 90s, and video codecs more generally since then, so I'm at least somewhat aware of the economics, but thank you.

However, as with @6by9, I'm not involved in the commercial negotiations, and his comments are very wise

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@JamesH65 JamesH65 commented Feb 19, 2018

We won't be changing what we do until the final two country patents run out, as stated above, there is no way we can enforce things to the required levels. After that we will look at it again.

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