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O> Onboarding Skills inventory: Developer? Writer? Redditor? etc. #222
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I created once this form: We need a kind of form, because there's no interchange between the official member onboarding and the Activist/Member onboarding. We need to add a request for becoming a member of rchain@googlegroups.com. How do we do that? |
In terms of onboarding workflow, this form should probably follow CONTRIBUTING.md, as in "Please scan the contributing doc, and IF you wanna contribute, THEN fill in this _form_." (Btw, if anybody is reading this issue via email the form link doesn't work, but it does via the Github UI.) |
@lapin7 Do you have any/many developer responses from that survey? I'm interested to work toward something simpler. |
I buy this idea, very necessary,it tends to streamline and create effective management of issues. I find it that if every member (new members perse) fills In a form containing it's skills inventory, i.e areas of deep knowledge, expertise and experience, issues would be easily managed. Such that, the management of issues would also be guaranteed to be at trusted hands who can effectively manage, analyze and resolve them . Likewise, when the need of a skill arises in the cooperation, someone can easily be identified to its rescue. |
@dckc My skills-inventory-form never went on line. Great that you want to work toward something simpler. I'm looking forward to the new form and to the integration in the CONTRIBUTING.md. We could also create a form for a skill endorsement. Something like LinkedIn. I think it's still to early for management of matching issues and skills. At the moment I'm very happy when somebody takes the initiative of doing something, instead of suggesting or managing others. :-) Anyway it's good to have profiles of our members. |
Oh... right... linkedin skills... why reinvent the wheel? For better or for
worse, a critical mass of the RChain community uses linkedin. We might as
well just collect linkedin profile URLs.
I wish discord supported links to them. (#210)
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Oh what a bummer :-(
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That was my first idea too, @lapin7 <https://github.com/lapin7> , but
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I drafted something: |
That works. I filled it in. Took two minutes, that's what we want. |
Checking the boxes. There doesn't seem to be a change when it is prompted. I'll try some other way. But keep an eye on that. Cheers and well done.
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Sweet.
Could you add GPS location: latitude, longitude. 2 digits is enough. like
52, 4 for NL
And consider optional sections
The intro could give some links to social media
and a sign up for rchain@googlegroups.com like:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rchain/join
Think also about a confirmation message and what we could put in there.
Once you fill out this form, there has to be an ongoing flow of interaction
to trigger new users.
Like did you know this and that
And how to do this and that
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Checking the boxes. There doesn't seem to be a change when it is
prompted. I'll try some other way. But keep an eye on that. Cheers and well
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Did trying another way work? I requested editing rights from @dckc for the form. @ResonanceXX, if you do the same we can work on improving it. |
Of course. I'm strongly inclined to help out. But I wouldn't rush off to make edits. I'd have to know alot more about the subject matter.
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Hey, why don't we work together on this @ResonanceXX? Instead of editing @dckc's form (because his forte is actually core code), we'll make a new form and recreate what he did. Then as we craft the content we'll learn about Google forms and we can fine tune the user experience. Here's a start: |
I don't know my lat/long. I like to use "nearby airport" for rough
geographic location. I'll try that.
More on the rest later...
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Sweet.
Could you add GPS location: latitude, longitude. 2 digits is enough. like
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I marked mine OBSOLETE in favor of the copy by @kitblake and made some edits there.
I'd rather not do sections. I'd like to keep this to "front side of one page". I don't want anybody to go "ugh. too long. Screw it." |
@kitblake would love contributing to the recreation, I added some things I found vital to it since it's a skill inventory form ,such as; |
Maybe it's nice to integrate these forms: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/171oKtb6Y7h3ICeoVkUoWQeSTc8vD2bU8YHns9tRd3os/edit I like sections and before a section begins you can add a way out to submit. When you get bored of the form you can submit at any moment. |
Thanks for the improvements @dckc and nice work @BelovedAquila. Looks much better! Especially now that the default google style is gone. Somehow the submit button is gone too. I tried to fill in the form. Probably a result of the burst of editing. We should do some testing, meaning fill in the form so we have some example data. That will help us determine what fields we want to keep. For this particular form, I'm with @dckc that it should be dead simple. Personally I hate filling in yet-another-profile and I'm the type that would say "Screw it". Have we an idea for what the ultimate destination of the data will be? Would be good if it comprised a 'Talent Pool'. Then when someone needed, say, a developer or lawyer, they could peruse the data. A google spreadsheet might be sufficient. We can tweak the presentation (column widths, etc) so it'll be readable. |
Nice work everyone who edited the form @BelovedAquila @dckc . But the form need some adjustment. Especially the skills. I will have to work on the form and grant an access rchain@googlegroups.com for any further edit. |
Go for it @Keaycee. On second look, I'm also missing the: This form will be part of the onboarding workflow so mentioning the bounty system provides incentive. It'll be nice to have a definitive signal that so-and-so is onboard and would like to contribute. That bell has been missing so far. (Ideally a real living person will follow up.) |
@kitblake I made some adjustment on the form. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeopRXm-DfVRxpYmlPTm4tE0xJKYWDNxFVQ3CVNp492qp-GRA/viewform There is a need to remove edit permission after any future inputs so as to enable members to fill in the form. I had already shared edit permission to rchain@googlegroups.com which is important. I suggest the public edit permission be removed so member can start filling the form. |
This has gone in a very different direction from what I had hoped.
Making it more than one screenful gives an "oh no... how long is this thing?" feeling, to me. I didn't look beyond the first page. |
@dckc I have succeeded in |
I did some google scripting to reformat the data: The script isn't automatically run when new responses come in. And it's not very pretty. But it's easier to read than the spreadsheet in some ways. |
@dckc the link requires access permissions. |
oops! ok... I shared it with rchain@googlegroups.com |
@dckc Can we make this procedure as a kind of logon requisite. I get tons of emails for asking request to our docs. They have to become a member of rchain@googlegroups.com. And when they get a bounty they to fill out more personal data, like:
Could the data above be linked to the public data of Github through a "limited access" database/spreadsheet? |
It's not immediately clear how to do all that, @lapin7, but I'll think it over. |
For the moment I think an easy export of bounty-collaborators to a Gsheet would suffice. |
@ysgjay in your recent Greeter work (cf. #783), is there anything like this survey?
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I suggest we encourage new members to fill out a skills inventory. Perhaps when they join formally, but also as part of "welcome to RChain" messages on telegram etc.
edit: After a couple weeks of discussion, we have:
earlier:
By way of example:
This perhaps overlaps with #15, but that discussion is so long I can't tell quickly. If there is already a skills inventory, I would like a list of those who identified themselves as software developers.
I discussed this briefly with @patrick727 and he suggested I notify @drbloom and @lapin7 .
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