Database tools should be indistinguishable from magic

[coffeemug]

Surprise and amaze people with developer tools for building real-time, data-driven web applications they could only dream of building, and bring sheer joy and simplicity to the process of building great software.

[mlucy]

Moving into 1.7.

[mlucy]

@Tryneus, do you think you'll have time to pick this one up?

[mglukhovsky]

@mlucy, your wit knows no bounds. 😃

[Tryneus]

Working on this now.

[neumino]

Moving to 1.6.1.

[srh]

Surprise and amaze people with developer tools for building real-time, data-driven web applications they could only dream of building, and bring sheer joy and simplicity to the process of building great software.

This has nothing to do with magic.

[coffeemug]

This has nothing to do with magic.

I disagree, for two reasons:

1. Magic tends to surprise and amaze people.
2. Building good software is painful and hard. Making it pleasant and simple is a fairly magical thing to do.

[mlucy]

Do we have the budget to hire some wicca?

[Tryneus]

No progress on this yet, guys, been working on other issues. I'll get to this as soon as I can.

[coffeemug]

Backlog, then.

[danielmewes]

Almost forgot about this. We should ship it with 2.0.

[coffeemug]

I think we might want to punt it the raft milestone, but I'm not sure 😄

[Tryneus]

I'll get to this when I'm back from vacation (should be around August).

[danielmewes]

@coffeemug Yes I was considering that too. I think we might have to split this issue up. I'm pretty sure we should be shipping at least some of the magic with 2.0.

[gchpaco]

That's no good, some of it might escape. You can only enclose it safely if all of the magic is there.

[danielmewes]

Rethinking this I'm not sure how useful a database tool indistinguishable from magic would actually be.

There already is an implementation, and I'm unsure how we could maintain the database aspect once we become indistinguishable.
We could maybe just fork http://www.opencircuitdesign.com/magic/ and relabel it as a database tool?

[deontologician]

Database tool that's indistinguishable from magic is one that isn't real, so the solution is to fork an empty git repo

[danielmewes]

I feel like it isn't entirely clear what we should actually do here for some reason.

I was originally going by @coffeemug 's original description

Surprise and amaze people with developer tools for building real-time, data-driven web applications they could only dream of building, and bring sheer joy and simplicity to the process of building great software.

This I think we will get done for 2.0.

However it's also clear that there's more to this.
I think in the long term we'll have to do all of these things:

• Having nothing to do with magic
• Hire some wicca
• Ship it with 2.0
• Put it in the raft milestone
• Split it up
• Enclose it safely by having all the magic there
• Fork an empty git repo

I'll probably open separate issues for these items at some point.

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[danielmewes]

RethinkDB 2.0 ships with a good amount of magic out of the box. We'll add some more in the upcoming releases to fully achieve this goal.

[v3ss0n]

How about hiring David Copperfield , or Dynamo :P

[danielmewes]

@v3ss0n will keep that option in mind. :)

[danielmewes]

I think this deserves some serious consideration for 2.1.

[v3ss0n]

Yes Please!! And please live stream it for those who can't come to States :D

[danielmewes]

The magic is being packed up right now.

[v3ss0n]

This bag of magic shouldn't be closed! keep it open!!

[danielmewes]

@v3ss0n don't worry, this is just for transfer. It's easy to unpack again once we've distributed the packages.