diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine/checksums.ini b/build/pkgs/symengine/checksums.ini
index 1c1813e7eea..8eb65f05ef9 100644
--- a/build/pkgs/symengine/checksums.ini
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine/checksums.ini
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 tarball=symengine-VERSION.tar.gz
-sha1=11885879ddcd0a9ab69e36a79b93aef836d6c95d
-md5=4673c85b423241ce85a9df35a7ed61bb
-cksum=1344562381
+sha1=a2c8957f2099c9199751b165f107bf93d6823818
+md5=fe3c3fee1bd8dfdb9576fc2d28cb1076
+cksum=3544211225
 upstream_url=https://github.com/symengine/symengine/releases/download/vVERSION/symengine-VERSION.tar.gz
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/arch.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/arch.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..7bcf459b746
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/arch.txt
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+symengine
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/homebrew.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/homebrew.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..7bcf459b746
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine/distros/homebrew.txt
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+symengine
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine/package-version.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine/package-version.txt
index 571215736a6..af88ba82486 100644
--- a/build/pkgs/symengine/package-version.txt
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine/package-version.txt
@@ -1 +1 @@
-0.10.1
+0.11.1
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine/spkg-configure.m4 b/build/pkgs/symengine/spkg-configure.m4
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..c037d2e5f72
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine/spkg-configure.m4
@@ -0,0 +1,45 @@
+SAGE_SPKG_CONFIGURE([symengine], [
+    m4_pushdef(SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MAJOR, [0])
+    m4_pushdef(SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MINOR, [11])
+    SAGE_SPKG_DEPCHECK([gmp arb ecm flint mpc mpfr], [
+        AC_CHECK_HEADER([symengine/symengine_config.h], [], [sage_spkg_install_symengine=yes])
+        AC_MSG_CHECKING([whether we can link a program using symengine])
+        SYMENGINE_SAVED_LIBS=$LIBS
+        LIBS="$LIBS -lsymengine"
+        AC_LINK_IFELSE([
+            AC_LANG_PROGRAM([[#include <symengine/expression.h>]],
+            [[using SymEngine::Expression;
+              Expression x("x");
+              auto ex = pow(x+sqrt(Expression(2)), 6);]]
+            )], [AC_MSG_RESULT([yes])], [
+            AC_MSG_RESULT([no]); sage_spkg_install_symengine=yes
+            LIBS=$SYMENGINE_SAVED_LIBS
+        ])
+        AC_MSG_CHECKING([symengine version >= ]SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MAJOR[.]SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MINOR)
+        AC_RUN_IFELSE([
+            AC_LANG_PROGRAM(
+            [[#include <symengine/symengine_config.h>
+              #include <stdio.h>
+            ]], [[
+              fprintf(stderr, "%s\n", SYMENGINE_VERSION);
+              if (SYMENGINE_MAJOR_VERSION >]] SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MAJOR[[) return 0;
+              else if (SYMENGINE_MAJOR_VERSION ==]] SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MAJOR[[ &&
+                       SYMENGINE_MINOR_VERSION >=]] SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MINOR[[) return 0;
+              else return 1;
+            ]])], [
+                AC_MSG_RESULT([yes])
+            ], [
+                AC_MSG_RESULT([no])
+                sage_spkg_install_symengine=yes
+            ], [
+                dnl assume that the person running cross-compiling
+                dnl knows what they are doing
+                AC_MSG_RESULT([yes])
+            ])
+    ])
+
+    m4_popdef([SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MAJOR])
+    m4_popdef([SAGE_SYMENGINE_VERSION_MINOR])
+], [], [], []
+)
+
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/checksums.ini b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/checksums.ini
index 0235c5e9cd9..f8790fdfb4e 100644
--- a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/checksums.ini
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/checksums.ini
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 tarball=symengine.py-VERSION.tar.gz
-sha1=fbbf052e66077ec51df319444b71f94114f33d9e
-md5=fc5d2d7f571a880aa2e040214aed2ff0
-cksum=2535731241
-upstream_url=https://github.com/symengine/symengine.py/archive/vVERSION.tar.gz
+sha1=4a8da0d0a057c8709c5b28543dbb3d26a060f013
+md5=d10f4ba5c27b09ef234fcafddf824ce5
+cksum=1332096394
+upstream_url=https://pypi.io/packages/source/p/symengine/symengine-VERSION.tar.gz
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/arch.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/arch.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..16ff7effe29
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/arch.txt
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+python-symengine
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/freebsd.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/freebsd.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..9fa30f46fb7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/freebsd.txt
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+math/py-symengine
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/gentoo.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/gentoo.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..e8851805aea
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/distros/gentoo.txt
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+dev-python/symengine
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/package-version.txt b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/package-version.txt
index 78bc1abd14f..d9df1bbc0c7 100644
--- a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/package-version.txt
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/package-version.txt
@@ -1 +1 @@
-0.10.0
+0.11.0
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/spkg-configure.m4 b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/spkg-configure.m4
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..9559bdb6da0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/spkg-configure.m4
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+SAGE_SPKG_CONFIGURE([symengine_py], [SAGE_PYTHON_PACKAGE_CHECK([symengine_py])])
diff --git a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/type b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/type
index af4d63af86d..134d9bc32d5 100644
--- a/build/pkgs/symengine_py/type
+++ b/build/pkgs/symengine_py/type
@@ -1 +1 @@
-experimental
\ No newline at end of file
+optional
diff --git a/src/sage/features/symengine_py.py b/src/sage/features/symengine_py.py
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..d32492085b7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/sage/features/symengine_py.py
@@ -0,0 +1,43 @@
+r"""
+Check for symengine_py
+"""
+
+# ****************************************************************************
+#       Copyright (C) 2023 Dima Pasechnik
+#
+# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation, either version 2 of the License, or
+# (at your option) any later version.
+#                  https://www.gnu.org/licenses/
+# ****************************************************************************
+
+from . import PythonModule
+from .join_feature import JoinFeature
+
+
+class symengine_py(JoinFeature):
+    r"""
+    A :class:`sage.features.Feature` describing the presence of the
+    Python package :ref:`symengine_py <spkg_symengine_py>`.
+
+    EXAMPLES::
+
+        sage: from sage.features.symengine_py import symengine_py
+        sage: symengine_py().is_present()                    # optional - symengine_py
+        FeatureTestResult('symengine_py', True)
+    """
+    def __init__(self):
+        r"""
+        TESTS::
+
+            sage: from sage.features.symengine_py import symengine_py
+            sage: isinstance(symengine_py(), symengine_py)
+            True
+        """
+        JoinFeature.__init__(self, 'symengine_py',
+                             [PythonModule('symengine', spkg="symengine_py",
+                                            url="https://pypi.org/project/symengine")])
+
+def all_features():
+    return [symengine_py()]