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Add ResearchOrganization subclass of Organization #2877

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timbl opened this issue May 10, 2021 · 7 comments
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Add ResearchOrganization subclass of Organization #2877

timbl opened this issue May 10, 2021 · 7 comments
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timbl commented May 10, 2021

We are using the set of subclasses of Organization to allow users to specify items in their Curriculum Vitae.
The subclasses suggested for Organization are

# Airline - a Corporation
# Consortium - a Corporation or a NGO
 schema:Corporation
 schema:EducationalOrganization
# FundingScheme - eh?
 schema:GovernmentOrganization
# LibrarySystem
# LocalBusiness - Corporation
# MedicalOrganization - a Corporation or a NGO
 schema:NGO
 # NewsMediaOrganization - a Corporation or a NGO
schema:PerformingGroup # a band
schema:Project # like Solid
schema:SportsOrganization # a Team
 ) .

where the ones commented out we have suppressed for the moment. The ones
which are live are implemented by mapping them to Wikidata classes, and then using the
WD SPARQL server to drive an autocomplete entry field.

The most important missing subclass is ResearchOrganization.

WD has one https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31855 called Research Institute.
Propose that they be considered equivalent classes.

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danbri commented Jun 29, 2021

Thanks @timbl

I've coded this up for our upcoming release, in the "pending" section - which gives us room to refine the definition over time.

As proposed here (and if identical to the Wikipedia type) it is for rather formal research organizations (although Wikidata suggests "environment" as a softer synonym). I am comfortable with this, in part because we also have a softer / vaguer structure under Project, https://schema.org/ResearchProject.

So for a group of internet collaborators figuring something out together in IRC / wiki / github, it might not be a Scientific Institute, but it could still be a Research Project. It would be good to explore overlap and consistency here.

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timbl commented Jul 17, 2021

Certainly Projects are an interesting place to look at building more tools around. A github organization, the solidproject.org unincorporated organization, things which run themselves on the web in a solid pod are (very) interesting too, but I don't think of them as ResearchOrganizations .

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dr-shorthair commented Jul 18, 2021

A Project is usually time-bounded, more like a prov:Activity, compared to an organization which is ongoing.

I had a go at designing a project ontology based on Prov a few years ago.
The key features were that a Project has a Plan and a Budget.
See https://dr-shorthair.github.io/project-ont/docs/

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danbri commented Jul 18, 2021 via email

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dr-shorthair commented Jul 18, 2021

It sounds like you are talking about s more restricted notion, … a managed,
funded. scheduled project.

In the ideal case yes. But OWA means that if some of these specific aspects are not known then these properties do not have to be included.

What I was trying to do was to figure out what are the typical and essential properties of 'project' in contrast with an 'organization'. A 'project' is definitionally transient, while an 'organization' is more often ongoing. The best projects have plans and budgets and leaders, and maybe all projects should aspire to these. I certainly agree that any of these can come and go during a project, but I think these characteristics are generally applicable - certainly with both formal and informal projects that I've been involved in.

Not trying to box anyone in here, just write down the usual expectations. Information/data modelling requires us to make these kind of choices sometimes, else we can't classify our world ;-)

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sharppaul commented Jul 22, 2021

It sounds like you are talking about s more restricted notion, … a managed,
funded. scheduled project.

In the ideal case yes. But OWA means that if some of these specific aspects are not known then these properties do not have to be included.

I feel like I'm in the same boat here. I'm working on making linked data available for the projects listed on edmerp.seadatanet.org and can't find a way to publish any temporal data for a Project.

For the SparQL ontology we used prov:Activity aswell, using prov:startedAtTime & prov:endedAtTime to publish the start and end date.

Maybe schema:Project could use something like schema:CreativeWork's temporalCoverage

Cheers,

Paul

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danbri commented Feb 20, 2023

Ah, looks like I didn't close the loop:

It's in schema.org now, in the Pending area awaiting feedback from implementors

https://schema.org/ResearchOrganization

@timbl - did this prove useful in the end?

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