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3D Lab Print plane compatible #3560

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AndWik opened this Issue Nov 5, 2016 · 13 comments

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Version of Slic3r used goes here
1.2.9

Use About->About Slic3r for release versions
1.2.9

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Windows 10 64-bit

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    • If this is a command-line slicing issue, include the options used
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Is this a new feature request?
3DLabPrint planes are not compatible.
slic3r is really the best 3D print program there is so please make support for this.

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STL/Config (.ZIP) where problem occurs

Upload a zipped copy of an STL and your config (File -> Export Config)

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Nowhere near enough information to begin, see contributing guidelines. Need, at minimum, a screenshot of the resulting toolpaths (if not the model itself as you wouldn't have the rights to do so).

If I don't see any other activity in a week this is getting closed as "not enough information to fix".

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lordofhyphens commented Nov 6, 2016

Nowhere near enough information to begin, see contributing guidelines. Need, at minimum, a screenshot of the resulting toolpaths (if not the model itself as you wouldn't have the rights to do so).

If I don't see any other activity in a week this is getting closed as "not enough information to fix".

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Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I understand the reason.

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AndWik commented Nov 6, 2016

Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I understand the reason.

Have a good day
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I think this issue may stay open as it is valid.

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bubnikv commented Nov 6, 2016

I think this issue may stay open as it is valid.

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Agreed, if someone with a test case is willing to work on it. Probably would be good to add an auto test as well.

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lordofhyphens commented Nov 6, 2016

Agreed, if someone with a test case is willing to work on it. Probably would be good to add an auto test as well.

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@AndWik Tried this? https://tools3d.azurewebsites.net it has worked very well for me when others have failed...

epatel commented Nov 6, 2016

@AndWik Tried this? https://tools3d.azurewebsites.net it has worked very well for me when others have failed...

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Here is a link to a Wing Tests made by 3D Lab Print that is told not to work with Slic3r,
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:998525
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1286190

This is a rework that is made for Slic3r
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1207209

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AndWik commented Nov 22, 2016

Here is a link to a Wing Tests made by 3D Lab Print that is told not to work with Slic3r,
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:998525
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1286190

This is a rework that is made for Slic3r
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1207209

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Well, this issue has a bad title and poor information. And it looks like @AndWik didn't even test personally.

@bubnikv, my basic opinion is that bad solids should be fixed at CAD level and people should just learn proper usage of CAD programs. But I understand that end-users bring a variety of test cases, especially when they are customers and not advanced users. Moreover, I have to admit I eased workarounds and tricks also in other features of Slic3r so I do see the value in allowing shortcuts.

So let's try to figure out what a proper feature request would be. What about "Alternative handling of nested solids or non-solid walls"? There could be an option or an interactive prompt when such objects are imported in the plater. This needs a bunch of significant test cases, and sound proposals. It's not just a matter of mesh processing code; it would significantly affect the rest of the internals as much of the existing semantics would need to be adjusted (i.e. what's an external perimeter? what's a bottom solid layer? what to draw first? etc.)

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Well, this issue has a bad title and poor information. And it looks like @AndWik didn't even test personally.

@bubnikv, my basic opinion is that bad solids should be fixed at CAD level and people should just learn proper usage of CAD programs. But I understand that end-users bring a variety of test cases, especially when they are customers and not advanced users. Moreover, I have to admit I eased workarounds and tricks also in other features of Slic3r so I do see the value in allowing shortcuts.

So let's try to figure out what a proper feature request would be. What about "Alternative handling of nested solids or non-solid walls"? There could be an option or an interactive prompt when such objects are imported in the plater. This needs a bunch of significant test cases, and sound proposals. It's not just a matter of mesh processing code; it would significantly affect the rest of the internals as much of the existing semantics would need to be adjusted (i.e. what's an external perimeter? what's a bottom solid layer? what to draw first? etc.)

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In addition from what I have seen 3DLabPrint specify that the first few mm should be printed with 2 perimeters with subsequent layers changing to 1 perimeter. I have seen this sort of functionality being used in both cura and Simplify3D for various purposes like this example, or, perhaps changing temperatures or extrusion multiplier at certain Z heights. It's a real shame Slic3r can't do this currently. As quite a newbie to 3D printing I have just managed to get things working well with Slic3r so don't really have the appetite for starting to learn/tune a new slicer.

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In addition from what I have seen 3DLabPrint specify that the first few mm should be printed with 2 perimeters with subsequent layers changing to 1 perimeter. I have seen this sort of functionality being used in both cura and Simplify3D for various purposes like this example, or, perhaps changing temperatures or extrusion multiplier at certain Z heights. It's a real shame Slic3r can't do this currently. As quite a newbie to 3D printing I have just managed to get things working well with Slic3r so don't really have the appetite for starting to learn/tune a new slicer.

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Great, I have just read some info on this. Very interesting but not as straightforward as the method of specifying different settings for different Z ranges in Simplify3D. Still I'm going to experiment and see how I can use this. Looking at your PR I'm not sure, would it allow me to specify lets say a cube covering the full print area from lets say z=5 to z=100 and specify modifiers for that area - rather than having to import another STL and move it around the printbed? If so that sounds great.

As per the original poster I'm interested in the 3D Lab Print models but I'm in no hurry, particularly if at some point in the not too distant future I would be able to print them without moving to another slicer.

JBFUK commented Dec 14, 2016

Great, I have just read some info on this. Very interesting but not as straightforward as the method of specifying different settings for different Z ranges in Simplify3D. Still I'm going to experiment and see how I can use this. Looking at your PR I'm not sure, would it allow me to specify lets say a cube covering the full print area from lets say z=5 to z=100 and specify modifiers for that area - rather than having to import another STL and move it around the printbed? If so that sounds great.

As per the original poster I'm interested in the 3D Lab Print models but I'm in no hurry, particularly if at some point in the not too distant future I would be able to print them without moving to another slicer.

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Looks like #3523 is this in actuality (hackish STLs, etc). Tagging and closing. Further discussion can go there.

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lordofhyphens commented Jan 25, 2017

Looks like #3523 is this in actuality (hackish STLs, etc). Tagging and closing. Further discussion can go there.

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