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Do not use Google Analytics #1153

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akuckartz opened this issue Mar 24, 2019 · 6 comments

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commented Mar 24, 2019

Noted in #1152 (comment) by @melvincarvalho

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commented Mar 24, 2019

@akuckartz thanks for raising this. I think there will be a range of views on this one.

I'll note that this is not native to node solid server.

It is however part of solid dot inrupt dot com. Which is now linked to the code base.

There will be differing views on GA. As a self professed "privacy fundamentalist", I would consider it harmful.

So while I think it's up to individual companies or pods to use that technology, we should not in our code base, and we should not in any of sites that are marked as "official".

Whether it should be used in general, (eg in a pod or app) really is an open question. Possibly should be up front and in the T&C. I personally would avoid. But I can see why a business would go that route. Should we allow apps and pods that use tracking software -- maybe. Should they be part of the "benificent" eco system, maybe not, that could be up for debate.

I also believe there are a few open source alternatives to GA.

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commented Mar 24, 2019

One alternative is https://matomo.org (fka Piwik).

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commented Mar 24, 2019

@akuckartz I empathize with the utility of web analytics for helping website operators understand which parts of their sites are getting used and with what patterns so that they can improve their offerings and learn what their clients use, and I agree that it's unfortunate when, in doing so, they share the surveillance data only with Google.

Matomo is pretty good OSS alternative. I use it for permanent.cloud and conserve.org, but self-hosted (on permanent.cloud). You and everyone else can see the results here: https://matomo.permanent.cloud/ to click around and see if it's a sufficient alternative.

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commented Mar 25, 2019

Hi all - just want to point out that https://solid.inrupt.com does use Matomo, and has been now for several months. Will figure out what's pulling in that GA script and make sure it is stripped out immediately. Thanks for raising this.

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commented Mar 25, 2019

Hi all - just want to point out that https://solid.inrupt.com does use Matomo, and has been now for several months. Will figure out what's pulling in that GA script and make sure it is stripped out immediately. Thanks for raising this.

As a quick update - the GA script call has been stripped out.

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commented Mar 25, 2019

This is resolved as far as I am concerned. Thanks to all who helped!

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