Is this an abandoned project?

[facastagnini]

Hi guys,

It seems that @sorin-ionescu is not active anymore. There is a pile of useful PRs and no one with merge rights. Just take a look at the code-frequency...

When a cool project like prezto is abandoned by the repo owner and no one else has commit rights the community should find the way to orderly move forward. Is there a well maintained fork that we can move to or someone willing to do it?

CCing some contributors that I have seen active around here... @rtfpessoa @ezintz @ericbn @joaosa @sectioneight @leoj3n @toogley

PD: @sorin-ionescu are you there? Please drop a line here so we can figure out what to do next!

[rtfpessoa]

I only did a fork and started merging some prs but only for private use.

To be fair, I know very few bits of the project so I do not think I would be a good maintainer alternative.

Though, I would not mind helping.

[ericbn]

Also CCing everyone from #1163: @kontrafiktion, @kress95, @ezintz, @fuadsaud, @stefanosc.

(Just for reference: I have currently no interest in this project - I Initially, answered with the opposite, because I thought i was tagged for another project i'm interested in. Sorry.)

[ezintz]

Yes, sure let's see how we can make progress. As most of you probably did, I also merged some of the pull requests which made sense to me. Let me know how I can contribute and support you.

However I will need to keep a separate project as I've integrated it to my dotfiles to take my configuration always with me.

[stefanosc]

Thank you for this conversation. Unfortunately, I have not been active at all in development for almost 18 months. I am still using prezto and the sorin theme despite the lack of commits / merged pull requests.
I would have already moved to zim if it wasn't for this: zimfw/zimfw#82
I don't know how helpful I could be, however if others are interested I could try. To me it makes more sense to move to zim and integrate the missing pieces.

[rjcoelho]

@stefanosc why zim since its basically same as prezto ? why not zgen or antigen instead ?

[stefanosc]

@rjcoelho this sums it up (first paragraph from readme):

Zim is a Zsh configuration framework with blazing speed and modular extensions.

Zim is very easy to customize, and comes with a rich set of modules and features without compromising on speed or functionality!

It seems to me zim is trying to bring prezto back to the origin or even take it further, in terms of simplicity and speed, which were among the main reasons sorin moved away from omzsh.
It is actively developed and is a little more than a plugin manager (zgen or antigen)

What is your take?

[jeffcox]

I've had no issues running a personal fork and perusing the discussions and PRs here. What do people expect to see? Changing dotfiles for the sake of it doesn't make sense to me.

[dvcrn]

It's a shame @sorin-ionescu doesn't just add some of the people here as maintainers.

Given the MIT license, how about we move it into a org and add all people here interested in maintaining as initial members? I played with org-settings and it looks feasible.

• Are there people here willing to take over the wheel of this project?
• Does the MIT license permit publicly distributing a fork under the same name?
• Would the name-clash be a problem? New users would very likely be confused about this

/edit: I had some time to try out zim and really like it so far as well!

[ezintz]

@dvcrn nice to meet you here (; However I like your idea about moving to an organisation.

I just had a short look at the zim source code and I have to say it looks pretty similar to prezto.

[stefanosc]

@ezintz zim started as a fork of prezto due to sorin lack of activity: take a look at @Eriner fork:
https://github.com/Eriner/prezto (read the NOTICE at the beginning of the readme)

[facastagnini]

I also like @dvcrn 's idea. I just created one here https://github.com/prezto-users and forked the repo.
Lets make this a community effort, so far I am the only one there, please let me know if any of you wants to be a contributor.

EDIT: I haven't done any change to the fork until we have a few members that can review the PRs

[Eriner]

For those curious about zim, @stefanosc nailed it. I've been busy at work recently, but I'm going to carve out time this weekend to wrap up moving the project into an organization (which requires some additional code, hence the delay). I've been putting off doing that for far too long now. This will ultimately end up in this organization/repository. The change to an organization should facilitate better project growth and management.

That said, I think zim is a great choice for most people currently looking for a prezto alternative/replacement. When the change happens, I will do my best to make the transition to the new repository/organization/structure as seamless as possible.

@stefanosc, if you'd be interested in beginning work on providing the changes for the issue you mentioned, I'd be glad to merge them into the project.

[ryankask]

It would be great to learn more about how to transition from prezto to zim.

Is zim meant to be forked? For example, I have a custom prompt theme -- where do I put that? I just added it to modules/prompt/functions in my prezto fork.

Also, how do the contents of prezto's runcoms directory map to zim's templates directory? Clearly zimrc is zpreztorc and zshrc is the same but what about zprofile? In prezto this sets up paths and exports important variables like EDITOR. Where should the contents of that file go in zim? Is zshenv necessary?

Thanks!

[dvcrn]

@ryankask from what I can see, zshrc is sourcing zim (and therefore zimrc). So zimrc would be zpreztorc and zshrc is your normal zshrc.
It's almost identical to prezto in that you can fork it - implying the occasional upstream commit merging, or just go with the upstream version.

@Eriner if you ever need a helping hand with zim, I would love to help as well 😊