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title: 42 - TODO - Lane Shackleton
title: 42 - Blurring the Line Between User and Programming - Lane Shackleton

# #42 - TODO: Lane Shackleton
# #42 - Blurring the Line Between User and Programming: Lane Shackleton


"The world's been divided into people who can make software, and the people who use software all day, and basically we think that that paradigm is not a good one. It feels kind of broken," says Lane Shackleton, Head of Product at Coda, where they are building a new kind of document that blurs the line between users and programmers.

A Coda document starts out looking like a familiar online document, a lot like Google Docs. There's a blinking cursor, you can bold and italicize text, add images, and collaboratively edit it alongside others. But a Coda table is much more powerful than a traditional table that you'd find in a typical word processor. Like a spreadsheet, the a Coda table allows you to create complex relationship between pieces of data via a formula language. Upon closer examination, the Coda table is more structured than spreadsheets and more closely resembles a friendly relational database, like Airtable.

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If you're familiar with Notion, another augmented document medium, this all may sound familiar. Coda differentiates itself in a few ways. For one, it allows users to build complex (but no-code) trigger-based workflows from within the tool, such as when a table is modified or a button is pressed. For another, Coda really sells itself as an app-builder, in that teams can use Coda documents on their phones as native mobile apps. For example, a bike shop can have its employees easily swipe and snap a photo of inventory directly into a Coda table simply by creating a photo column in that table. Coda takes care of converting that column into an interface that automatically pulls up the camera on mobile.

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Coda was inspired by the founders' experience at YouTube, where the company "ran on spreadsheets," but now they dream of building a medium that fundamentally changes how people see themselves, as creators instead of merely as consumers, and reshapes the way teams, communities, and even families collaborate and function. It's a big, compelling vision, and Coda has a long way to go.

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# Episodes

<span class="date">2019 Aug 15 -</span> [#42 - Blurring the Line Between User and Programmer: Lane Shackleton](./episodes/042)

<span class="date">2019 Jul 26 -</span> [#41 - The Aesthetics of Programming Tools: Jack Rusher](./episodes/041)

<span class="date">2019 Jun 13 -</span> [#40 - Joining Logic, Relational, and Functional Programming: Michael Arntzenius](./episodes/040)

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