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Set realistic timings for episodes #928

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gcapes opened this issue Feb 26, 2019 · 5 comments

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commented Feb 26, 2019

Currently teaching all episodes takes around 6 hours, rather the advertised 3. This demotivating for instructors.

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commented Feb 28, 2019

I see 4:30 in the schedule at http://swcarpentry.github.io/shell-novice/. Do we say 3 hours elsewhere? But either way, definitely agree with the goal of more realistic timings.

I personally haven't taught this lesson recently or frequently enough to feel confident about my ability to estimate better per-episode times. Do we have any veteran shell instructors who could volunteer estimates?

(Alternatively, I wonder if there's some way we could request that instructors who teach the lesson in the future write down how long they spent on each episode and send us the data so we could come up with a rough empirical average?)

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commented Mar 1, 2019

Sorry, that's my bad memory. It was 3 hours once, but I amended it a while back #680. I think a report from instructors on the current material would be useful. It's hard to update the timings during a PR because you won't have actually taught the new material yet. I'll put some times up next time I teach it.

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commented Mar 1, 2019

Here's a placeholder if anyone wants to copy it and put their times up:

Episode Teaching (mins) Exercises (mins)
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commented Mar 31, 2019

The instructor guide still says (emphasis mine): "All of this material can be covered in three hours as long as learners using Windows do not run into roadblocks [...]"

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commented Mar 31, 2019

I can't (yet) give values for the SWC curriculum, but I used to give a similar course for several years, and alone the basic commands, navigation, working with files and directories, some filters, permissions ecc., with exercises, but w/o any control structures, pipes or redirections took us a whole day (six to seven hours excluding coffe breaks and lunchtime) and an other, slightly shorter, day for some more commands, pipes, redirections and more exercises. Group sizes were between 20 and 30 persons and we usually had 2 -3 helpers besides the instructor. Course attendands were usually biologists with very little to no Linux experience. That seems to be a more realistic timeframe to me :-).

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