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limit(x**n, x, -oo) is sometimes wrong #8634

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pelegm opened this issue Dec 18, 2014 · 8 comments · Fixed by #24458
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limit(x**n, x, -oo) is sometimes wrong #8634

pelegm opened this issue Dec 18, 2014 · 8 comments · Fixed by #24458

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@pelegm
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pelegm commented Dec 18, 2014

For example,

>>> n = Symbol('n', integer=True, positive=True)  # could be 3
>>> limit(x**n, x, -oo)
oo

while

>>> limit(x**3, x, -oo)
-oo

It looks like it assumes n is even, because stating odd=True for n seems to solve this issue.

@Amitjha1412
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Hi ,
I am new to Sympy community. I wanted to get started with this bug. Can you please explain more about this bug ?

Thanks.
Amit

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pelegm commented Jan 11, 2015

Can you ask a more specific question?

@Amitjha1412
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Where should i start looking into?

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pelegm commented Jan 11, 2015

Where should i start looking into?

I have no idea. I just reported the bug, I don't have a clue about where to start looking for a solution.

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It looks like it assumes n is even, because stating odd=True for n seems to solve this issue.

>>>n=symbols('n',integer=True,positive=True,odd=True)
>>>x=symbols('x')
>>>limit(x**n,x,-oo)
oo

@pelegm odd=True doesn't solve this issue
@jksuom can you help me in fixing this , i think limitinf function is causing this issue but i am not able to figure out where?

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jksuom commented Feb 6, 2016

I'm afraid this is not going to be easy to fix. It seems that limit invokes gruntz even if that would not be necessary in this case. That will routinely replace the variable x with an expression of type -exp(y) (as x is expected to be negative). Then x**n will take the form exp(y*n + I*pi*n), which is correct. But afterwards, in passing to the limit y -> oo, the I*pi*n term is lost and the result will be exp(oo) = oo.

It seems to me that the limit should be computed without passing over to gruntz, but that would imply a major rearrangement of limit.

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@jksuom thanks a lot for the insight.

skirpichev added a commit to diofant/diofant that referenced this issue Feb 20, 2016
skirpichev added a commit to diofant/diofant that referenced this issue Feb 21, 2016
skirpichev added a commit to skirpichev/diofant that referenced this issue Nov 2, 2016
    close sympy/sympy#3112 (MrvAsympt was added in diofant#6)
    close sympy/sympy#9173 (test was added in 5a510ac)
    close sympy/sympy#9808 (fixed in 09e539b)
    close sympy/sympy#9341 (fixed in af98a00)
    close sympy/sympy#9908 (fixed in cc3fa8d)
    close sympy/sympy#6171 (test added in d278031)
    close sympy/sympy#9276 (diagnose_imports.py removed in ab8c535)
    close sympy/sympy#10201 (fixed in 0d0fc5f)
    close sympy/sympy#9057 (test was added in 8290a0c)
    close sympy/sympy#11159 (test was added in ffb76cb)
    close sympy/sympy#2839 (new AST transformers are used, see diofant#278 and diofant#167)
    close sympy/sympy#11081 (see ed01e16 and bb92329)
    close sympy/sympy#10974 (see 73fc425)
    close sympy/sympy#10806 (test in 539929a)
    close sympy/sympy#10801 (test in 2fe3da5)
    close sympy/sympy#9549 (test in 88bdefa)
    close sympy/sympy#4231 (test was added in fb411d5)
    close sympy/sympy#8634 (see 2fcbb58)
    close sympy/sympy#8481 (see 1ef20d3)
    close sympy/sympy#9956 (fixed in a34735f)
    close sympy/sympy#9747 (see e117c60)
    close sympy/sympy#7853 (see 3e4fbed)
    close sympy/sympy#9634 (see 2be03f5)
    close sympy/sympy#8500 (fixed in diofant#104 and finally in diofant#316)
    close sympy/sympy#9192 (see 9bf622f)
    close sympy/sympy#7130 (see e068fa3)
    close sympy/sympy#8514 (see b2d543b)
    close sympy/sympy#9334 (see 90de625)
    close sympy/sympy#8229 (see 9755b89)
    close sympy/sympy#8061 (see 7054f06)
    close sympy/sympy#7872 (tested in diofant#6)
    close sympy/sympy#3496 (tested in test_log_symbolic)
    close sympy/sympy#2929 (see da7db7a)
    close sympy/sympy#8203 (oo is not a real, see diofant#36)
    close sympy/sympy#7649 (0 is imaginary since diofant#8)
    close sympy/sympy#7256 (fixed in c0a4549)
    close sympy/sympy#6783 (see cb28d63)
    close sympy/sympy#5662 (is_integer issue fixed in 6bfa9f8, there is no is_bounded anymore)
    close sympy/sympy#5295 (fixed with diofant#354)
    close sympy/sympy#4856 (we now have flake/pep tests)
    close sympy/sympy#4555 (flake8 enabled after diofant#214)
    close sympy/sympy#5773 (cmp_to_key removed after diofant#164 and c9acbf0)
    close sympy/sympy#5484 (see above)

    Added regression tests:
    from https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sympy/LkTMQKC_BOw
    fixes sympy/sympy#8825 (probably via diofant#209)
    fixes sympy/sympy#8635
    fixes sympy/sympy#8157
    fixes sympy/sympy#7872
    fixes sympy/sympy#7599
    fixes sympy/sympy#6179
    fixes sympy/sympy#5415
    fixes sympy/sympy#2865
    fixes sympy/sympy#5907
    fixes sympy/sympy#11722

    Closes diofant#347
skirpichev added a commit to skirpichev/diofant that referenced this issue Nov 2, 2016
    close sympy/sympy#3112 (MrvAsympt was added in diofant#6)
    close sympy/sympy#9173 (test was added in 5a510ac)
    close sympy/sympy#9808 (fixed in 09e539b)
    close sympy/sympy#9341 (fixed in af98a00)
    close sympy/sympy#9908 (fixed in cc3fa8d)
    close sympy/sympy#6171 (test added in d278031)
    close sympy/sympy#9276 (diagnose_imports.py removed in ab8c535)
    close sympy/sympy#10201 (fixed in 0d0fc5f)
    close sympy/sympy#9057 (test was added in 8290a0c)
    close sympy/sympy#11159 (test was added in ffb76cb)
    close sympy/sympy#2839 (new AST transformers are used, see diofant#278 and diofant#167)
    close sympy/sympy#11081 (see ed01e16 and bb92329)
    close sympy/sympy#10974 (see 73fc425)
    close sympy/sympy#10806 (test in 539929a)
    close sympy/sympy#10801 (test in 2fe3da5)
    close sympy/sympy#9549 (test in 88bdefa)
    close sympy/sympy#4231 (test was added in fb411d5)
    close sympy/sympy#8634 (see 2fcbb58)
    close sympy/sympy#8481 (see 1ef20d3)
    close sympy/sympy#9956 (fixed in a34735f)
    close sympy/sympy#9747 (see e117c60)
    close sympy/sympy#7853 (see 3e4fbed)
    close sympy/sympy#9634 (see 2be03f5)
    close sympy/sympy#8500 (fixed in diofant#104 and finally in diofant#316)
    close sympy/sympy#9192 (see 9bf622f)
    close sympy/sympy#7130 (see e068fa3)
    close sympy/sympy#8514 (see b2d543b)
    close sympy/sympy#9334 (see 90de625)
    close sympy/sympy#8229 (see 9755b89)
    close sympy/sympy#8061 (see 7054f06)
    close sympy/sympy#7872 (tested in diofant#6)
    close sympy/sympy#3496 (tested in test_log_symbolic)
    close sympy/sympy#2929 (see da7db7a)
    close sympy/sympy#8203 (oo is not a real, see diofant#36)
    close sympy/sympy#7649 (0 is imaginary since diofant#8)
    close sympy/sympy#7256 (fixed in c0a4549)
    close sympy/sympy#6783 (see cb28d63)
    close sympy/sympy#5662 (is_integer issue fixed in 6bfa9f8, there is no is_bounded anymore)
    close sympy/sympy#5295 (fixed with diofant#354)
    close sympy/sympy#4856 (we now have flake/pep tests)
    close sympy/sympy#4555 (flake8 enabled after diofant#214)
    close sympy/sympy#5773 (cmp_to_key removed after diofant#164 and c9acbf0)
    close sympy/sympy#5484 (see above)

    Added regression tests:
    from https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sympy/LkTMQKC_BOw
    fixes sympy/sympy#8825 (probably via diofant#209)
    fixes sympy/sympy#8635
    fixes sympy/sympy#8157
    fixes sympy/sympy#7872
    fixes sympy/sympy#7599
    fixes sympy/sympy#6179
    fixes sympy/sympy#5415
    fixes sympy/sympy#2865
    fixes sympy/sympy#5907
    fixes sympy/sympy#11722

    Closes diofant#347
@anutosh491
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Currently this functions opposite to what the issue was reported for

>>> n = Symbol('n', integer=True, positive=True)
>>> limit(x**n, x, -oo)
-oo

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