Homepage #14
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1. Content
2. Alert box (hot item)
3. TDWG Announcements subscription
4. News (once hot, now cooling items)
5. Membership
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6. Standards
7. Journal
It's not that Standards and Journal are not important, obviously they are,
but there are (will be) menu items at the top of the page that link
directly to those topic areas.
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The homepage currently contains 7 elements:
1. Content
2. Box to highlight something
3. Three standards
4. Button to journal
5. Latest news
6. Box to subscribe to newsletter
7. Button to become member
8. (currently only on jekyll site
<https://tdwg.github.io/website-jekyll/>) Latest tweets by @tdwg
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@stanblum <https://github.com/stanblum> which of these elements do you
think we should retain or change?
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Does this work well for the alert box: Or would you prefer more customization? |
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Additionally, do you think the alert box needs an image? |
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The primary function of an image here is to grab attention or provide an
associated identity.
We have been "branding" conferences with an image or a logo, and used that
image/logo in the alert box when the alert is about the conference. I
don't know how strong that branding is, and it changes every year. Some
alerts are about other organizations or projects, and they sometimes have
logos we can/do use there (e.g., BiCIKL, GBIF)
Our standards generally don't have strongly associated images, so for
alerts about our standards we just try to use something both eye-catching
and relevant.
Those are the arguments "for" having an image. I'm on the fence.
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Additionally, do you think the alert box needs an image?
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Ok, let's support an image! It is optional and I have simplified things a bit, the settings are now: The subscribe and become a member buttons are replicated in Markdown. The page looks like this (https://tdwg.github.io/website-jekyll/)
@stanblum is this sufficient? |
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I like having an image because it is eye-catching and usually relevant and it is often the same one used either in the news item or on the webpage that it points to. That the attribution does not appear on/with that image (but is in the code), is a bit problematic to me, but given the size of the image on the box, it is probably not worth worrying about (and we don't see it on any of the other small boxes (currently). I am not on the fence--I like having an image. |
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@gkampmeier Good that image is implemented then 😄 It does indeed not include image attribution. I didn't add it for cards because of the size and because all cards (except the "featured" box) directly take you to a page where image attribution is shown. Other comments about the home page? https://tdwg.github.io/website-jekyll/ |
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It seems like the colored TDWG log needs to appear somewhere prominently on the home page. It's fine in the tiny version in the top banner for being on every page. But for the home page it could go somewhere in the permanent content (description of the organization, etc.) |
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I created a couple of alternate design mockups for the homepage to accommodate a much larger version of the logo. |
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@ben-norton these are interesting but I like @peterdesmet's current incarnation https://tdwg.github.io/website-jekyll/ of the background, as it is more about texture than any one animal--your examples also may be more difficult to maintain and attribute as they appear to be cutouts. The clearly featured animals (and I hear the botanists, and all the other -ologists also squawking that the are not represented!), draw the eye away from the logo without apparent purpose. Was there a reason you didn't try to use the logo on the existing background? Or as @baskaufs suggested, use the colored logo in the body of the text? This way we could preserve the uniformity of navigation of the pages. |
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Ya it's hard to see the logo on the current background. Some of the background images are a bit noisy. |
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Ah, @ben-norton I can now appreciate your reasoning for the imagery (bringing out of the darkness) and yes, the jellyfish has cool colors, but so do a myriad of arthropods, fungi, and plants. Makes me recall when changing images on home pages was a new phenomenon--is that done anymore? Or has the fashion changed? |
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@gkampmeier By "changing images on home pages", do you mean loading an image at random every time the home page loads? I'm not sure about trends, but I've used it to solve this specific problem many times. It's very easy to set up. Every image in a set gets a number. When the page load, a number is selected at random, then the corresponding image loads. I've used this technique many times to solve the issue of fair representation. It's always worked. If we were to go that route, I would opt not to go with my design. It'll be much easier to create a collection of big backgrounds. My design requires not only dark shadowy silhouettes but the right placement and visible features. |
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@ben-norton yes, that's what I meant, but having/finding a collection suitable of big backgrounds seems like a distraction at this point. Nice to know that it's still in use and works, though. |
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I have added a colour logo on the homepage as @baskaufs suggested:
I also removed the news items, but still find it quite cluttered. I think it might work better if the featured item is an alert at the top, with the logo on the side
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@peterdesmet I prefer the first iteration--the logo is outsized and dominates the page in the second one. It balances nicely with the featured item in the first and does not appear cluttered to me but modular. |
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I agree with @gkampmeier The first version seems about right. |
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I prefer the first one too but I like the small box alert for news items in the second one |
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Outreach and communications FS asked for Twitter feed to be visible on homepage. I have thus moved the featured item to the top of the content rather than the side column. It does allow the inclusion of an image to call attention.
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- Include Twitter feed - Disable display of blog posts - Allow to feature an item - Include rest as Markdown (including buttons) See #tdwg/website-migration-2022#14
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Nice work on integrating the Twitter feed. It looks good Peter despite the obnoxious restrictions twitter enforces regarding customizing the look and feel. |
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Reopen - Reclose. |
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Reopening: with changes at Twitter, it was decided not to feature the Twitter feed on homepage. Will look how to best integrate logo. |
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Here are two new versions.
I prefer the version on the left with the long horizontal logo as it is clean, readable and will work well on smaller screens. Thoughts? |
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@peterdesmet @thearyung my biggest problem with having the alert box so front-and-center is as here, when content is stale/outdated. You could argue that it will push us to do better, but what happens if we have no photo (focal point; e.g., we need to put something up about TDWG 2023 but have no official photo yet from the conference organizers) or nothing of shirt-grabbing interest or more than one thing? On the home page, what is most important and how do we make sure that users coming to our home page either see that information there or have the confidence to know where to go within a click or two to find it? Is this the alert box or is who/what we are more important? While these are philosophical questions (possibly without clearly consistent answers depending on users/visitors to the site), I would like to make sure that the design is not limiting for us. I (personally) tend to prefer the compact logo version (right hand version) over the string (which seems more appropriate to a footer or header), but while I would like to see this up top, its placement with the buttons to subscribe or become a member are balanced nicely. The question of how it all looks on mobile screens is a valid one, but I can't tell anything from the screen captures. In the current website, the alert box appears below the text about TDWG in mobile...as a compact, rather than long box, it is well-formatted for mobile with a photo + information + button. |
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@gkampmeier Note that the alert box 1) does not require an image and 2) can be removed if there is no news. The fact that potentially can be removed makes it more complex to design in a separate column (previous iterations), i.e. what do you do when there is no alert?
So, I'd opt to leave the alert box as is. I'll try to incorporate the non-stretched logo. |
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I think the optional alert box is critical. It's also referred to as a type of call out banner.
You could call it "community action items". |
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@ben-norton we also have a news section for additional items. The alert box may refer to a news item or something more pressing (opening and/or deadline for a review, abstract submission, conference registration), and I agree, it is critical to have timely, changing content, particularly that calling for action by the community. Currently, its size and structure restrict what can be featured there. It is maintained primarily by the Secretary (currently includes @thearyung and @stanblum), but others of us have also had occasion to add things. |
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@gkampmeier "Community action items" are separate from news. They are single actions that people can take advantage of right at that moment like a public comment period for a particular issue. They are targeted and arguably the most direct mechanism for engaging the community. It enables the community to take action by making a contribution with one click. |
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@ben-norton good ideas; is also part of Outreach & Communications as well and strategic planning. |
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I reverted to a "card" based approach for the featured item, shown on the right side. When there is no featured item, that column won't be used and content will be centered. The logo is shown next to the buttons. Closing this issue. Wide screen
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The homepage currently contains 7 elements:
@stanblum which of these elements do you think we should retain or change?
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