diff --git a/packages/rdom/package.json b/packages/rdom/package.json
index 1cae3136c8..282c69db78 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/package.json
+++ b/packages/rdom/package.json
@@ -101,6 +101,9 @@
 		"./event": {
 			"default": "./event.js"
 		},
+		"./idgen": {
+			"default": "./idgen.js"
+		},
 		"./klist": {
 			"default": "./klist.js"
 		},
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/idgen.ts b/packages/rdom/src/idgen.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..d6981c902d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/idgen.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+import type { ISubscribable } from "@thi.ng/rstream";
+
+let NEXT_ID = 0;
+
+/** @internal */
+export const __nextID = (name: string, src?: ISubscribable<any>) =>
+	src ? `rdom$${name}-${src.id}-${NEXT_ID++}` : `rdom$${name}-${NEXT_ID++}`;
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/index.ts b/packages/rdom/src/index.ts
index b012014e1d..ab893a1fe4 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/index.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/index.ts
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ export * from "./compile.js";
 export * from "./component.js";
 export * from "./dom.js";
 export * from "./event.js";
+export * from "./idgen.js";
 export * from "./klist.js";
 export * from "./list.js";
 export * from "./object.js";
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/klist.ts b/packages/rdom/src/klist.ts
index 859edf3dba..8bf2fcf6b7 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/klist.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/klist.ts
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 import type { Fn, Fn2, NumOrString } from "@thi.ng/api";
 import type { ISubscribable } from "@thi.ng/rstream";
-import { __nextID } from "@thi.ng/rstream/idgen";
 import type { IComponent, IMountWithState, NumOrElement } from "./api.js";
 import { $compile } from "./compile.js";
 import { Component } from "./component.js";
 import { $moveTo } from "./dom.js";
-import { $Sub } from "./sub.js";
+import { __nextID } from "./idgen.js";
+import { $subWithID } from "./sub.js";
 
 interface KListItem {
 	k: NumOrString;
@@ -71,11 +71,10 @@ export const $klist = <T>(
 	childCtor: Fn<T, any>,
 	keyFn?: Fn2<T, number, NumOrString>
 ) =>
-	src.subscribe(
-		new $Sub<T[]>(
-			new KList<T>(tag, attribs, childCtor, keyFn),
-			`rdom$klist-${src.id}-${__nextID()}`
-		)
+	$subWithID(
+		src,
+		new KList<T>(tag, attribs, childCtor, keyFn),
+		__nextID("klist", src)
 	);
 
 export class KList<T> extends Component<T[]> implements IMountWithState<T[]> {
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/list.ts b/packages/rdom/src/list.ts
index 9cfa027d88..b351f2ed44 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/list.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/list.ts
@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
 import type { Fn, Predicate2 } from "@thi.ng/api";
 import type { ISubscribable } from "@thi.ng/rstream";
-import { __nextID } from "@thi.ng/rstream/idgen";
 import type { IComponent, IMountWithState, NumOrElement } from "./api.js";
 import { $compile } from "./compile.js";
 import { Component } from "./component.js";
-import { $Sub } from "./sub.js";
+import { __nextID } from "./idgen.js";
+import { $subWithID } from "./sub.js";
 
 /**
  * Creates a generalized and dynamically updating list component from items of
@@ -60,11 +60,10 @@ export const $list = <T>(
 	ctor: Fn<T, any>,
 	equiv?: Predicate2<T>
 ) =>
-	src.subscribe(
-		new $Sub<T[]>(
-			new List<T>(tag, attribs, ctor, equiv),
-			`rdom$list-${src.id}-${__nextID()}`
-		)
+	$subWithID(
+		src,
+		new List<T>(tag, attribs, ctor, equiv),
+		__nextID("list", src)
 	);
 
 export class List<T> extends Component implements IMountWithState<T[]> {
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/object.ts b/packages/rdom/src/object.ts
index 15a9df2aa2..09bc7e6102 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/object.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/object.ts
@@ -8,7 +8,8 @@ import type {
 	NumOrElement,
 } from "./api.js";
 import { Component } from "./component.js";
-import { $sub } from "./sub.js";
+import { __nextID } from "./idgen.js";
+import { $subWithID } from "./sub.js";
 
 /**
  * Creates a control component wrapper with an internal stream setup for user
@@ -91,7 +92,12 @@ export const $subObject = <T extends object, K extends Keys<T>>(
 	src: ISubscribable<T>,
 	opts: Partial<StreamObjOpts<T, K>>,
 	inner: Fn<StreamObj<T, K>["streams"], Promise<ComponentLike>>
-) => $sub<T>(src, $object(src.deref() || <any>{}, opts, inner));
+) =>
+	$subWithID<T>(
+		src,
+		$object(src.deref() || <any>{}, opts, inner),
+		__nextID("obj", src)
+	);
 
 export class $Object<T extends object, K extends Keys<T>>
 	extends Component
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/replace.ts b/packages/rdom/src/replace.ts
index f10bbf2b9d..af637caf1e 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/replace.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/replace.ts
@@ -2,7 +2,8 @@ import type { ISubscribable } from "@thi.ng/rstream";
 import type { IComponent, IMountWithState, NumOrElement } from "./api.js";
 import { $compile } from "./compile.js";
 import { Component } from "./component.js";
-import { $sub } from "./sub.js";
+import { __nextID } from "./idgen.js";
+import { $subWithID } from "./sub.js";
 import { $wrapText } from "./wrap.js";
 
 /**
@@ -38,7 +39,7 @@ import { $wrapText } from "./wrap.js";
  * @param src -
  */
 export const $replace = <T>(src: ISubscribable<T>) =>
-	$sub(src, new Replace<T>());
+	$subWithID(src, new Replace<T>(), __nextID("replace", src));
 
 export class Replace<T> extends Component implements IMountWithState<T> {
 	protected parent?: Element;
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/sub.ts b/packages/rdom/src/sub.ts
index d880e08e95..dc547112a9 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/sub.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/sub.ts
@@ -52,6 +52,21 @@ export function $sub(
 	);
 }
 
+/**
+ * Version of {@link $sub} which supports specifying an rstream stream ID for
+ * the resulting subscription (useful for debugging/visualizing the reactive
+ * graph topology).
+ *
+ * @param src
+ * @param inner
+ * @param id
+ */
+export const $subWithID = <T>(
+	src: ISubscribable<T>,
+	inner: IMountWithState<T>,
+	id: string
+): IComponent<T> => <$Sub>src.subscribe(new $Sub(inner, id));
+
 export class $Sub<T = any> extends Subscription<T, T> {
 	el?: Element;
 
diff --git a/packages/rdom/src/switch.ts b/packages/rdom/src/switch.ts
index f2ef7caeda..b50c6c9870 100644
--- a/packages/rdom/src/switch.ts
+++ b/packages/rdom/src/switch.ts
@@ -4,7 +4,8 @@ import type { ISubscribable } from "@thi.ng/rstream";
 import type { IComponent, IMountWithState, NumOrElement } from "./api.js";
 import { $compile } from "./compile.js";
 import { Component } from "./component.js";
-import { $sub } from "./sub.js";
+import { __nextID } from "./idgen.js";
+import { $subWithID } from "./sub.js";
 import { $wrapText } from "./wrap.js";
 
 /**
@@ -65,7 +66,12 @@ export const $switch = <T>(
 	ctors: Record<NumOrString, Fn<T, Promise<any>>>,
 	error?: Fn<Error, Promise<any>>,
 	loader?: Fn<T, Promise<any>>
-) => $sub<T>(src, new Switch<T>(keyFn, ctors, error, loader));
+) =>
+	$subWithID(
+		src,
+		new Switch<T>(keyFn, ctors, error, loader),
+		__nextID("switch", src)
+	);
 
 /**
  * Syntax sugar for {@link $switch} for cases when there's only a single
@@ -79,6 +85,8 @@ export const $switch = <T>(
  * `$compile`d and then getting re-mounted. See {@link $switch} for
  * further details.
  *
+ * Also see {@link $replace}.
+ *
  * @example
  * ```ts
  * $refresh(fromInterval(1000), async (x) => ["div", {}, x])
@@ -94,7 +102,12 @@ export const $refresh = <T>(
 	ctor: Fn<T, Promise<any>>,
 	error?: Fn<Error, Promise<any>>,
 	loader?: Fn<T, Promise<any>>
-) => $switch(src, () => 0, { 0: ctor }, error, loader);
+) =>
+	$subWithID(
+		src,
+		new Switch<T>(() => 0, { 0: ctor }, error, loader),
+		__nextID("refresh", src)
+	);
 
 export class Switch<T> extends Component implements IMountWithState<T> {
 	protected val?: T;